Do you really believe a .edu is more trusty

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by Jocelyn, Dec 6, 2006.

  1. #1
    This site and other .edu ranks all over casino/poker/entertainment stuff :

    http://www.h-net.msu.edu/people/search/search1-24.php

    The fun part is it redirects you to an other page... a non-edu site... hack, a DR doing tests... whatever... it's not my point and don't care about them.

    The buzz word has always been that .edu and .gov tld's had more trust and more weight than other tld's... if it was the case... well it might change. They had loads of these .edu domains and subs ranking and taking chunks of 20-40 sequencial listings in a 100 result page... much less are showing now.

    Just sauce for toughts ...
     
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  2. disgust

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    edu sites have more trust. not because they have a .edu extension, but because they're almost by definition an authority, and they've had a website for quite a while, and they get linked to like crazy.

    correlation, not causation.

    the extension means nothing.
     
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  3. Jocelyn

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    Agreed... but weren't .edu extensions only available to educationnal organizations... like you can't just get one like this. My surprise was just that usually they are more controlled than a simple .biz ... it's just I never really saw major spamming comming from an edu site... lol
     
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    They have more trust by google and usually have alot of good links from otehr gov and edu sites which gives them more value. What your talking about is exactly why matt lied in his blog and said they are not anymore valuable. Google wants to keep the .edu spam down and thought this would help. Not sure that it did much. But I do know for a fact .edu domains are given more trust by google and they don't have a sandbox period. Google may change this if they can't keep the spam down but I am unsure about that.
     
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  5. amnezia

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    I do think google factors in extensions when assessing the likelyhood of a site being spammy. therefore yes i believe sites with a .edu extension are give more initial trust than other extensions.
     
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    this is an incredibly odd statement to make.

    how many .edu sites do you know-- and have researched extensively-- that weren't around prior to 2003/early 2004?
     
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  7. visio

    visio Well-Known Member

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    Sorry but I didn't get that. :eek:
     
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  8. disgust

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    only sites made during/past 2003/2004 are affected by the sandbox... almost all university and college websites have been around for a decade. hence no sandbox.
     
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    Yeah, Ball State University got their domain in 1986 or something crazy like that.

    They do have more weight for the moment, but i've seen spam like that too.

    There was a recent auction on EBay too where you could get .gov pages. Went for something like $10k...
     
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    visio Well-Known Member

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    Yes there are lots of old ones and they mostly have really great value however edu and gov domains are created all the time.
     
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    Hopefully, G decides to penalize this particular .edu and not all .edu's across the board.

    /tom/
     
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    I think .com sites are more trusty than anything else out there. Even .org which is supposed to mean non profit.
     
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    Edu's are definitely trusted more by the engines, because of the links they have and the educational info on them. Just because the one page mentioned by the OP is bad doesn't change that fact. Hopefully they clean up their act.
     
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    Google doesn't punish a extension if one domain does a bad thing. I they did there would be no extensions that you could use in Google especially .info and .com
     
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  15. Jocelyn

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    One page... you mean loads of domains loaded with subs loaded with useless pages... how do you think they took over 20-40 listings for a search... lol
     
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    This is the reason why most .edu shouldn't be trusted... it seems like anyone that went to school at one can get a page somehow.

    IMO... way to easy to abuse.
     
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    I've never tried. Is there something to stop you from registering an .edu domain? I know that anyone can get a .org, so I can't see how that can be any more trusted than any other domain.
     
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    Well to get a .ca you have to be canadian or the business be in canada... I'd guess if a .edu is for educational operations only, there would be some kind of similar or even higher control.

    I never saw the .edu listed in the available domian list when I search... poker.edu is free you know... lol
     
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    you have to be the on the U.S. Department of Education's list of accredited universities/colleges to get a .edu.

    again, do you have any specific experience with any one .edu domain from which you based your statement that .edu sites aren't sandboxed? seems like you pulled it out of thin air, to me.
     
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    #20
    .edu doesnt matter what matters is quality and since most .edu are quality and authoritative sites with 10000000000000s of link backs they are hard to get links from and are better then .com but its not extension its quality. :)
     
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