Why do internet marketers charge so much for their money making systems?

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by johnnyr860, Aug 23, 2013.

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    Explain this to me please. People charge $50 or $60 for a money making system. Some people charge a lot more and some people charge a lot less. I have seen money making systems that go for as cheap as $10. So many of us out there are desperate to make money. They want to find the "right" system that makes them money so they go out and buy a money making system in some cases many of them out of desperation only to find out the money making system they spent their hard earned money on is full of outdated information or information that no longer works. Then they really feel down about it.


    A lot of these internet marketers are talking about money making systems that can make you 100's or even 1000's of dollars each and every single month. What I can't seem to figure out is these money making gurus who post things like "I am tired of seeing people waste their money on systems that don't work." or they might say "Are you tired of wasting your hard earned money? .... then try my system because it works." But then they turn around and charge you a handful of money just to read the information (most of which can be googled and found for free these days).


    If these people are sick and tired of people wasting their hard earned money then why on earth are they charging for their money making systems? I am sure there are money making systems that work like a charm but that is beside the point. If your system really works as good as you say then why can't you give it away for free since you probably don't even need that persons $50 let alone $10? Your system is so good that your making hundreds or even thousands of dollars every week or month then you should be able to make the money you have requested per person back and then some to spare. So please help a bonehead understand here...... Why do internet gurus and marketers even charge a penny for money making systems if they claim the systems works great?


    As a person who has been ripped off and had my money taken from person to person offering me money making systems that no longer work the very last thing I ever want to do is spend my hard earned money that I need for bills on a money making system from someone else who claims "I am the one that is different from all the others" because at the end of the day I can't tell if your system works or not until I pay. Free shows me that you understand my situation and want to prove to me that your system has nothing to hide from how good it works. What are your thoughts on this?
     
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  2. johnnyr860

    johnnyr860 Greenhorn

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    Thank you for the feedback. I also find a lot of money making systems that I buy they like to show screenshots of their earnings to prove to people that their systems work. Yet somehow when I go to try their systems and end up not making a penny I can't seem to figure out where on earth they got that screenshot if the money they are showing on the screenshots is nothing that I have ever made not even a penny. But this is life. I have learned hard. Now I only seek advice from people who give it away free of charge or anything I can find on google but anyone who tries to charge me for their money making systems are the ones I stay away from just to be safe. I thank you again for the feedback and will be sure to communicate with others here on the forum so I can see what works best for people in terms of making money. Take care for now! :)
     
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    tobalsan Well-Known Member

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    Tough for you but hopefully the harder the lesson the better you'll remember.

    Those "gurus" who promise to share the secrets to unlock thousands of dollars are basically making money... off the people buying their supposedly miracle methods.
    Sure their stuff might not be total crap but as it's been said before, most of the advices and tactics they sell are either outdated or available elsewhere for free.

    Don't fall into the traps, don't be lured and keep getting informed.
     
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    Alin Alex Active Member

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    Buddy,please read carefully and take my advice.Stop waisting money on WSO's or any other stuff.If you want i can teach you a method to get all the eBooks and systems you want for free.Just PM me!
    Second, the best way is to read,read,read and then read again everything you find and try it yourself and test ,test,test and then test again until you find the perfect formula.There is an ocean of info at your finger tips.You just have to read alot and work hard.I guarantee you that you'll strike success!

    If you ever need any help feel free to PM me with anything that bothers you but don't espect to be spoon fed.Cheers!
     
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    qwikad.com Illustrious Member Affiliate Manager

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    You're not the first person to ask this question. There's no easy answer to this. Some IM opportunities do work and are worth using and sharing with others. On the other hand, I would submit to you that, at least, 80% of money making opportunities do not work and are not worth talking about.

    If somebody makes a ton of money with cj.com, for instance, and wants to share (for a small fee) with others how they too can make money using their system, then why not?

    However, some MLM gigs stopped working back in the late 90's, yet even up until today some folks are making their income by selling their bogus e-books knowing that what their are telling people in those e-books doesn't work. It's said but true.

    I guess, one has to have a gift of discernment to figure out what may work and what may not. The problem is some people are so gullible that they will go after anything that promises them a quick buck. But it will all end up in one huge disappointment.
     
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  6. johnnyr860

    johnnyr860 Greenhorn

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    Thank you I will be sure to keep that in mind when I am doing my researching online. I have learned my lesson big time and this is good to know.
     
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    johnnyr860 Greenhorn

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    Let me start by thanking you for the comments. The problem that I see is just that. You said that you have to have some sort of gift to tell if the ebook you got will be of help or not but what if your like me and have no clue how to tell without buying and trying the system? By now I have seen so many systems and still not enough info to tell apart which ones do and do not work. So when you say that if someones ebook works and they charge a small fee I understand that but the point I was making is that these people no matter how small the fee is they don't need our money because they are making so much money they don't even need a penny from us. Even in then with people like me who do not even have a clue on how to tell which systems do and do not work a small fee is the last thing we need since I can't tell which person is being honest with me and which one is just here to take my money and run away with it as they say.
     
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    johnnyr860 Greenhorn

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    Hi I will send you a PM now so please look for it. I just want one ebook that can guarantee that it is not outdated and that can make me money graunteed if I put in the effort and right amount of work. So far I have not found that. I understand your saying free but for me I don't have a specific ebook in mind since I have not even the foggiest idea where to even begin. Surprise me and just send me one that is not outdated that still works today at making me money online if I put the work and effort in. Thanks for your help! :)
     
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  9. Howard Lim

    Howard Lim Active Member

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    I like your attitude! I think that 90% of the market is selling crap, but there are the 10% that are selling the real deal. My biggest advice to anyone is to get a mentor and learn from him/her.

    That seems the surest way to succeed.

    Many people say just clone my system / i will sell you my system. But most of the time, it is full of bull. The right way out i feel is to learn. Because only when you tread the tough path of learning, then will you become a sage.
     
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    tobalsan Well-Known Member

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    I'd even go as far as 95/5.
     
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    tobalsan Well-Known Member

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    Or spend time researching... i thing the think that OP complains about is that he actually did pay to access some information but it happened to be worthless
     
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    mkcookin Greenhorn

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    Some marketers are not charging for the system, but for all the actual work they put in it to get it set up.

    My mentor teaches on of the most profitable ways to make money online which is List Building.

    With list building it involves setting up a squeeze page with a high opt in rate, creating a free report (usually is about 20+ pages long ), and then creating follow up emails that will get opened, read, and point to products that are very good.

    Now while you can do this all on your own, this can takes actually months to get everything put together and converting well for you.

    What most marketers do, is teach a method (list building) then give a done for you site that is ready to make you money! All you have to do is start generating traffic.
     
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    mkcookin Greenhorn

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    I would also like to add, this can be the same as someone asking why do people pay to learn how to lose weight or cure back pain?

    The reason is they want a solution to their problem now! They do not want to go do extensive research on their own which can take days or weeks.

    The biggest seller online is information -- so by taking the time to research and put together a report, video, or site that has all the information people are looking for in one post, they will pay money to view it.
     
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    johnnyr860 Greenhorn

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    I disagree. If you want the information and you pay for it there should be a money back guarantee so that if you fail to make money and you applied the methods in that ebook then you can get your money. Too many people are paying for information but not getting what they are promised and screenshots these days are most likely photoshopped. If information is valuable and people should have to pay for it then explain to me why I have spent over $1000 on money making systems and applied ALL the methods step by step and not even made a penny?

    For my money if the information is as valuable as you say I would be rich by now or at least somewhere in that ballpark after wasting years on internet marketing and not making my money back. People should not have to pay for it since they can't tell if the person is scaming them with an outdated system or with a money making system that really works and since I can't tell which ones are the real deal or another guru trying to shake my money out of my pocket then I can't pay anymore. I prefer free info because then I have nothing to lose.
     
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    How far did you take their methods really? Did you put in 110% on one method before jumping to the next one? Could very well be the methods you bought were junk, but are you holding yourself totally accountable for the method failing? Because when you apply a method it is you doing the work now not the method.

    Have you found any success in any of these methods you have tried? Even a little bit?

    Free info is great, but sometimes a motivator for a lot of people is that they have invested in themselves even if it is $10. You would not be able to go to college for free. And I know plenty of people who have degrees, but are working a dead end jobs and have not applied there education.
     
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    To be honest, the price of a system is also a consideration of whether the system is effective enough. If you were able to discover or invent a system that made you money, it is but naturally for you to charge when you share it. Why would you want to give your intellectual knowledge and intelligence for free when you worked so hard for it? And me as a buyer, If I find something for free, I will most probably doubt the quality of the system and never spend time or waste time on it. As a buyer, the higher the price of the system, the more it tells me of how effective and promising this system could really be.
     
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    Ask here whatever you have doubts in your mind and get great info FREELY! why need to pay someone $50 or $60?
     
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    johnnyr860 Greenhorn

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    Thank you I agree with this and will do just that :)
     
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    johnnyr860 Greenhorn

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    Because the person buying the system (as in me) can't tell whether your system is the real deal or just another scam trying to steal my money. After buying money making system after money making system and not even making a penny me as a buyer does not want to spend one more red cent until the money starts flowing in. Sorry to be a burden but if the gurus have a problem with it they should be pointing the finger at all the scammers out there ripping people off and since I would never be able to tell if you just want my money or if you really worked hard then I can't spend that kind of money and will not spend that kind of money because then the only way for me to tell if your legit or just taking my money would be to take a risk and chance it without knowing and I have done that so many times that I can't do that anymore when I have other bills to pay that are more important than these gurus charging me for their money making systems.

    I disagree with you here. Why? Because I spent $100 on this one guys money making system and he guaranteed and promised that I would make money with his system and I trusted him and when I gave him my $100 payment he took my payment and deactivated his website and I never heard from him ever again. When I tried to email him the email was no longer active and I had no way to get my $100 back and when I tried the methods in his ebook NONE of them worked and I did not make a penny. You say the more you pay tells you how effective it is but I just gave you a story of something that happened to me a few months ago. Spending money does not guarantee anything. For all I know I could spend $1,000 on a money making system and that wont tell me anything or guarantee that I will make any money until I have wasted my time trying it and not all of them that put a high price tag on their item are in your best interest. Some people just want your money and they don't care about you or helping you. That is the reality of what I have been dealing with for over a year now. On the other hand I have found very valuable ebooks that were given to me free of charge and although some of the information there was outdated a large part of the free stuff mentioned in the ebook was very helpful and informative and filled with ways to help me make money that still work in 2013.
     
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    As with the internet nowadays, you cannot always guarantee that there will be no scammers. There are real ones, and fake ones. And that's for you to find out. We cannot solve the problem by making material all for free, just because there are also scammers out there. If you're really that passionate in making money online, you would have to take some risks...Not all of it will lead to positive result, but that's something we all have to deal with. Of course, there are plenty of free materials that may also help you out. Like I've said, everything is for you to find out. You can't have everything laid out for you in silver platter. Where is the challenge if everything is provided for everyone? That's a real way to make people LAZY...
     
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