SEO Must Die

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by MarketExpert, Aug 17, 2013.

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    I am a freelance SEO optimization expert. I have several domain properties and many PPC campaigns based upon my profitable keywords (from SEO). My recent strategy is to give every product that I promote massive distribution. Being an internet marketing specialist I took to the task immediately. In fact this is all I thinks about most days. I have put equal effort into both PPC and SEO. I am believing that even Search Engine Optimization is being monetized anyways, Based upon links and reputability. However SERPS are often bought and manipulated. So what makes a good SEO campaign? I have almost made my ebook tutorial entitled: My Secret SEO Plans, which is not quite finished yet. I can send you what I have made so far if you request.

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  2. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    No it shouldn't. SEO is not inherently bad. It makes your content more accessible.
     
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    melprise Well-Known Member

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    SEO should not die, but we should increasingly recognize the free organic traffic it provides was just a loss leader Google encouraged in order to train us to make more Google-compliant sites it could utilize to give value to its Adwords program. Otherwise, all optimization is viewed by Google as web spam, as all SEO is a deliberate attempt to improve rankings, hence "artificial" at a time when Google says it prefers natural relevant content and link development.

    We should rely more other methods to obtain good targeted traffic, be it niche email lists, direct link traffic mega sites like YouTube, Yahoo Answers et al, while using SEO as only one leg of a balanced traffic building plan.
     
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    Do share with us when you done..will wait for your ebook

    Yes, it is but sadly SEO is dieing :( I was reading about SEO on http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/jul/22/seo-is-dead-long-live-social-media-optimisation, now we should also think SMO

    They are really helpful for your website to build traffic but they never replace SEO in anyway.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    If SEO is certain to die, why bother writing any ebooks, just let it die. Also this is a forum that isn't meant for advertising, hope that you will sell your ebook (when it is done) in the Buy Sell Trade forums on ebooks instead.
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    "SEO must die" can be read in different ways depending on how the word "must" is read
    Firstly a command, secondly an opinion

    So long as there are search engines there will be the need for SEO - eventually, perhaps, search engines will be as irrelevant as directories and DMOZ but for now they exist. The Guardian article claims a search will only produce "13% organic results" - that just proves how important SEO is and how well the spammers, PPC, drop shippers and affiliate marketers understand it and use it. The search engines aren't keeping pace because, surely, their goal is to identify that group, disregard their sites, and serve up those organic pages. It's just a game that goes round and round.
     
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    When will end of this 'Loop Game'? Definitely real people are suffering more then spammers. Okay let go..but why the fundamental things like SEO gets affect and harming of a webmaster by round and round game, it should be in limit. Seriously:mad:
     
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    Spamming will be controlled if its die. Just loosing money and wait for some months. I am getting good results via ppc only.
     
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    SEO is not useless. The only people who think this are clueless SEOs.
     
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    One of my website get ban after using SEO. I have purchase SEO package for 1keyword @49$/month. At that time , i don't how to use SEO or what is SEO. I have just purchase because i want my website top in search engine. Finally SEO kill me. And i move to ppc which is some much costly but good for me. As well seo only,increase the power of spamming.
     
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    Good lord... there couldn't be anymore misinformation in this discussion. SEO isn't even close to being DEAD and it never will be. As long as Google is in business, there is always going to be way to manipulate rankings and see results.

    70% of Google user scroll right past PPC ads and click on organic results. Is that your definition of dead?

    The article by the Guardian is absolutely idiotic and was obviously written by someone who has either failed miserably at SEO or has not seen the incredible benefits.

    Long live SEO.
     
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    A good SEO will not spam your website. For the most part, you get what you pay for.
     
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    New members don't know which SEO is good. SEO is only responsible for SPAMMING. Every webmaster want high PR/ high position is search engine. If my website PR is 10. You want your website link in my website because you want high rank in search engine. If i am not allow , you will try to find out any black hat method i.e spamming.
     
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    Which is why you should learn about SEO before outsourcing it.
     
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    Than what is the use of SEO company if i have to learn. One more thing, if SEO is not involving in spam why most of the website uses captcha/google captcha/stopspam etc services. Even DP also uses captcha for stop spam. Due to spam only , DP not allow to new member to enable signature.
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    Regardless of what you buy it's good to have an understanding of what is involved. I get the basics of how to bake bread and grow vegetables but I prefer to buy from the supermarket. Because I know some of it I can look at different types of bread or different types of tomato and understand the difference. I save time, but it costs me money. No different from when you buy SEO services.

    And you need captcha etc not because of SEO but because of spammers. Good SEO enhances your site. Spammers, ultimately, destroy your site.
    and who is going to apply that "limit"?
    The search engines (and not just Google) do their best but until people stop using search engines (at the moment that is unthinkable) there will be the need for website owners to ensure their site is indexed appropriately.
     
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    The problem is there is a lot of people offering SEO services who aren't professionals. They will likely do more harm then good. The gigs you get on fiverr and the like is spam it's not SEO.
     
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    Why the fiverr is not suspend by google adwords where there services are involving in spam. One more thing , if fiverr will be removed from search engine , some much spam will be control. Those who are professional , they are also doing spam.
     
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    Retitled my Secret SEO Plans. Now "Kickstart" By Ad-Ventures. My ebook encompasses all three aspects of SEO, PPC, and Social media. Details in my sig below.
     
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