BritishGuy the amazing thing about aoun is that he was trained in the best military academies in america. I used to be pro aoun when he was fighting the syrians off. His latest decisions have me totally perplexed. What the heck is that guy thinking? Has he lost his freaking mind??????
Blogmaster, the thing in lebanon is that the moderate muslims and christians have finally gotten together and want peace, but this new shiite-aoun colation is standing in the way of that, and syria im sure is helping them out as it did at the last demonstrations by shipping protesters from syria to make the crowds even larger. When syria invaded lebanon the last time it was aoun who was the hero and gagea who was the traitor. Everyones flip flopping all the time, its like fun games .
Yes pinpong123 Michel Aoun puts his personal political ambitions before the people he professes to represent, when in reality Michel Aoun is a 'political prostitute' who prostates himself in front of the Syrians who in turn cohese with the Hezbollah who likewise accept Michel Aoun as a front end spokesman for their illegal aspirations to overthrow the Siniora government The Bush Blair accolytes will be that stupid, and eneducated to know that the Hezbollah 'kingpin in Lebanon' is the arrogant power mad antagonistic morally bankrupt arsehole called Hassan Nasrullah yes the same freak who was instrumental in the destruction of all the infrastructure in Lebanon earlier this year This dangerous psychotic is the man who sanctioned that the present demonstrations to overthrow the Siniora government now escalating and continuing for the 2nd consecutive day be fronted for the purposes of 'respectability and kudos' be fronted by turncoat Michel Aoun Don't expect these demonstrations to stop abruptly without a result for the Hezbollah
Britishguy, there was an aounist on the lebanese forces forum explaining that he is with hezbolla to drive out the occupying isreali army. Occupying isreali army?????????. They are talking about one little tiny piece of land called the sheba farms which isreal has always stated they would give back as long as lebanon determines it belongs to them and not syria, plus isreal invaded lebanon because of hezbolla going into isreali territory and snatching those isreali soldiers. This moron is completely oblivious to the syrian army that had been occupying lebanon for the last 15 years, raping, stealing, and allowing access for 1 million syrian illegal immigrants into lebanon. These workers would make the money and are notorious for not spending one dime in lebanon and instead bringing that money home to syria. Are these aounists on drugs????? Opps i forget the syrian installed president lahoud who was illegally installed for a second term against the lebanese constitution and with the blessing of mother syria.Aoun has turned into a traitor against lebanese who want peace and freedom. Hezbolla is probably loving this right now as he has turned the christians against each other. As far as hezbolla is concerned, i think they are soon gonna push beyond their limits. Isreal will never stand for a hezbolla controlled government on its borders and when the next civil war starts you better believe that isreal will have some participation in that one on some level.
I think you go this all wrong, I read the thread and you have to understand that nothing is what it seems. You really think syria will kill all these people? Why? What's the advantage? Lebanese claim that syria has killed the hariri and the other people. But I just don't understand why? Give me one good reason syria decided one day to wake up and destory Lebanon? Someone is pulling the strings here... and you are falling for all the games they are playing... and the most important game is misdirection...
KingofKings, i know all about misdirection and i have one of the most sceptical minds out there but in this case, its a matter of land and money and control. Syria would and has killed as many people it needed to achieve its goals. It had over a million syrians illegally working in lebanon. This is a huge amount of money being brought into the syrian economy. Lebanon is also leverage to get the golan heights back and they also have been helping out hezbolla for so long. Now im not 100% sure about the assasinations but im 100% sure that syria has its intelligence agents all over lebanon. Nothing happens in lebanon without syria knowing about it. NOTHING!!!! This has the footprints of souria all over it. Syria has drained the lebanese economy, raped and killed many lebanese . Hezbolla calls themselves lebanese nationalists protecting against the isreali invaders. WHAT DID HEZBOLLA DO WHEN SYRIA INVADED LEBANON AND STAYED THERE ILLEGALLY FOR 15 FREAKING YEARS EVEN WHEN THE TAIF AGGREEMENT STATED THEY SHOULD L:EAVE. Dude i think sometimes things are so obvious that they are true. Hezbolla never once laid a finger on the occupational syrian forces in lebanon and i know the syrians were there as i have been to lebanon twice and saw the way the ordinary lebanese citizens would cower before them .
I seriously doubt that (by the way, I'm from Israel). Israel is interested in the fulfillment of UN resolution 1701 (which prohibits arms transfers from countries like Syria & Iran to Hizbollah). If Israel transfers weapons to any Lebanese party, it will be the final nail in the 1701 coffin and it will legitimize the arms transfer which Israel is trying to prevent. Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt that the arms to Hizbollah will be transferred anyway - but Israel will not want to be the one that takes the air out of this resolution. There's no doubt that Israel prefers the Siniora coalition over a Hizbollah / Iran / Syria ran Lebanon, but it has other concerns right now (like the Iranian nuclear program). The way Israel sees it, there's a pretty good chance for a much wider war against Iran, Syria & Hizbollah in the next 3-5 years (and maybe sooner). If the international so called "efforts" against the Iranian program will fail, Israel will be the last stop between Iran and a nuclear bomb (as it was with Iraq in 1981). The entire Israeli political and military system is dealing with this issue and preparing itself. Numerous committees are investigating the failures of the last war against Hizbollah (it's an ongoing process). Some heads are flying. Senior officers that took active part in the war resigned, retired or been shown the way out. There's a huge question mark if the current chief of staff, will continue to serve until his term ends (my guess is that he'll go home too, pretty soon). Massive training of the reserve army, have also began. There's a true desire to fix the flaws that were discovered during the recent war and that's where Israel's energy is directed at right now.
3rd day of demonstrations are underway, at the same time as the running of the Beirut Marathon Could only happen in Lebanon they are so used to turmoil yet they still try to continue with events and life
Well The last thing Israel Did was fail to take out Hizbollah. I think that kinda proves that Israel can't fix any flaws.. But I don't think Hizbollah is a flaw, I think it's just defending the rights of the muslims and it's country. Also calling Hizbollah terroist is too much. Don't you think?
Let me tell you something my friend. I'm a Syrian first off, hehe so don't fire bullets at me. Anyway here's my point of view. I used to be a student in lebanon, and yes it's very true that syrians always had the power. But I don't understand why the Lebanese are so angry. 1. Most of the rich people who buy and shop are syrians. 2. Most of the business cooperations are run by syrians. (So that means Lebanese wouldn't of had any jobs if we didn't start these cooperations) (Also Syrian's had so much money in lebanon in the banks, my father used to have a big bank account in Lebanon. Sadly he moved it after what happened) So that means Syrians were playing a positive role in economy of lebanon. Your talking about the 1 million syrians working there illegally. Do you even know what jobs they take? There trashmen, and people who build and shovel. None of the jobs they take pay well or even measure up to any educated Lebanese man normal job. Plus look at Lebanon now, are you enjoying this? The economy is going down significantly it's crazy. I used to live in Hamra street 3 years ago.. It used to be the craziest and most trafficed shopping area in whole Lebanon. Now half of the shops have closed, and the others are running out of money. So many people are loosing in this problem that it's not funny. Second off about Hizbollah.. Why would they attack the syrians if the lebanese country economy is going up? Are we killing any lebanese? You think Israel will do better if they ran the country. Look at Israel now, for 20 days all they did was kill children and women. They didn't even touch the Hizbollah army. Plus you think running an army in Lebanon for Syria is good for syria? We are loosing alot of money daily because of this. Yes some Syrian high ranked officers were making money off of this occupation... but this is all because the Lebanese created this atmosphere. Example the Lebanese rich people where using the Syrian high ranked officers to get what they want.. and do what they want. If the Lebanese never gave money to the Syrian High Ranked Officers.. then this wouldn't of happened. Anyway I respect every Lebanese, and I have nothing against them. Accually I love living in Lebanon more then living in Syria. Lebanon is a great place and I hope it goes back to the way it was. Where people made money and enjoyed living there lives. It breaks my heart to watch the news, and especially this summer it was really sad.
Im getting a feeling that this forum is a hot bed for NEO-CON posters . This forum full of negative remarks about islam . I cant find any negative remarks about Jews or jewish settlers who kill little kids who are going to school !
First all king the lebanese have never hated the syrian p[eople, its the government that they dont like because of what they are doiing. It doesnt matter what jobs these syrian workers take, the point is they are there illegally and taking that money back to their homeland. This has been draining the economy for 15 years. When the syrian army invaded in 1991 they raped the country of so many resources. Syrian checkpoints all over lebanon. I remember my cousin before passing by a syrian checkpoint being told by his parents to be extra extra nice to the syrian soldiers there . The lebanese had no choice but to pay off these high ranked syrian officers. COULD THEY SAY NO TO AN OCCUPYING FORCE??????????? Its funny when isreal invaded for a few days as a defense that you all talk about it yet say nothing about teh illegal 15 year occupational syrian force thats been there. As i said before they have nothing against the syrian people(my moms best friend is syrian).
Ads4me, syrian has intelligence agents all over lebanon. Believe me if isreal did this syria would have the proof right now. Also by killing enough members of this cabinet it will dissolve and that benefits SYRIA as that would ste the stage for the hesbolla Aoun(traitor) government. I used to believe in aoun as he wanted peace and harmony for every lebanese whether they are muslim or christian but now he has betrayed everything that he has believed in by siding with hesbolla who only care about what syria and iran wants. This forum isnt about isreali crimes against the palestinian people, its about lebanon. Lets stick to the subject
Dear friend iam the friend of king of kings, i just read what you have said and i would like to give my opinion, take into consideration that iam syrian but i do have the lebanese nationality and i consider lebanon my second country, i lived my best times there, but i sadly found the following. you , lebanese people, with all the respect i have for you, and i do! for making your city a great one, for being so educated and civilised, so life living, so modern...etc , there is still one thing you did not reach, and seems like you will never do, and that is how to be the owner of your selves, you are a people who cant rule themselves, you are always with who you think is strong and cant control your own mind, when x president rafik hariri was alive, you hated him and shouted on him, when he died you want his blood!! when syria was in lebanon, you all pretended to like syria and syrians, and used to kiss asses for syrians so you can get good jobs and good deals and now you hate her?? you had a war for many years and when syria stopped it you did not appreciate it??regardless of what they did in your country?? do you know that the owner of BLOM (azhari), the oWner of AUDi(kettaneh), the owner of sony ( fattal), the owner of scoozi (bobes) and hundereds of who have built the lebanese economy are syrians? strange. ok back to some politics, you think syria have killed all of those people??ok...lets c, first of all, know that syria do not and will never ever will have such professionality in killing people, as when it wants to kill anyone it says it on the public cause they dont know how to hide, secondly, if you think or have a doubt that syria is making those assisnations, dont you think that there are hundreds of lebanese helping? come on for god sake you are a people who just like to shout and go on the streets, so you can hook up some girls,all of you..ha..all of you, follow one man,if your dad is from junblat people, then you are from junblat, and you do what ever junblat says for example!!have you ever putted your head infornt of you and tried to use it, sorry no offence iam not talking about you but lebanese in general...you..lebanese, sorry to say that, but you will always be ruled by some one, cause you are a people who are greedy..and do not appreciate what they have, and obviously do not deserve this nice country
Ok first of all kingofking i consider myself america as i was born in the usa. When i traveled to lebanon i was called the foreigner. You dont need to tell me about the culture as i know it very well(notice im saying im american ). Yes there are hundreds of syrian sympathizers(omeeay and bathists helping the syrian intelligence agencies) and you are right that people did complain about harriri before he was killed, but harriri did alot of good for lebanon and that cant be denied, but i disagree with you on the last part. Every culture deserves the right to rule themselves, and the lebanese have finally come together but now your fellow syrians the hezbolla and their iranian masters wanna take control of lebanon. Why did they occupy lebanon so long? Do u think they did this for the good of the lebanese people? You cant be that naive? Every strong country throughout the history of man has oppressed the weaker ones whether it is syria doing it to lebanon or rome doing it to the greeks. The truth is i truely believe that lebanon really is ready for peace now, but the persians (hesbolla) dont want that and neither does syria. The senoura government doesnt want to align itself with america or iran , they just want a chance to rule themselves and they want peace. Tell bashar to leave them alone, and no im not the typical showoff as most lebs think they are and i dont go chasing after women lol
Anyway no hard feelings. Let's watch the news and see how this turns out. If lebanon can rule themselves.. then I think it's about time they prove it
Beirut has started to erupt the 3rd Civil War in 50 years looks about to begin This will be a catastrophic tragedy if this is allowed to happen. Shiites have started shooting Sunnis