Shouldn't we have rules for sub-forum? Like Maximum number of thread per <a specific time frame> or <maximum number of thread allowed> on a sub-forum per day? Some folks take advantage and blast the sub-forums with too many threads, too quickly. Obviously they should have the common sense of putting all those domains on one list and try to sell / promote. Anyways, would it be useful to have this feature? Not sure how feasible this feature is from a technical standpoint.
Better to have individual threads for domains, otherwise they aren't searchable here: https://marketplace.digitalpoint.com/sites
Oh, that's right. But what about folks who spam it. Like pump out threads over thread and make a huge impact on the sub-forum. Other day, I found 10 domains thread from a single guy, thus making the sub-forum look so odd. Does it make sense to have a rule that will forbid people making new threads within few hours or a rule like max thread on a sub-forum per day? Especially this would make sense on Market place. Any thoughts?
If they have a lot of domains/sites to sell, they do... No big deal. They have to go through the trouble of verifying ownership of each one and they system won't let them ever repost duplicate threads, so... Most of the real buyers use the filtering system to find domains/sites to buy, so the order things are posted had very little impact on them when it's said and done.
Why does it matter how it looks? This is a weird complaint. 10 different domain are 10 different domains whether they are posted by one person or ten people. It is the domains that matter, not that they are each posted by a unique seller. I am with DP on this one.
I agree. I think you should want a greater diversity of sellers on the front page. Bump. The content sub-forum is a joke. This is bullshit! I bumped a thread like an hour ago in the content forum, and already my thread is not above the fold. There should be a maximum of 2 threads per 24 hours for each forum. That would be the logical thing to do.
I agree with you @dcristo People post crap load of threads to make sure they get all visibility. This is a trend that I am seeing in Marketplace section of DP. Domains and Content forum are the most crowded ones. However what can we do? The owner has decided this kind of feature wouldn't make sense even though it is logical... Hey @digitalpoint I am trying to make a case for this feature. Could you please read through and respond. See the screenshot below: This is the content forum. As you can see it is mostly swallowed by three sellers. Do you think this leads to a good user experience? Of course the number of threads posted is huge, but it only leads to lower quality forum page. Any buyer coming over to this page to buy something good, would really go nuts. Since we don't have any restriction, people post crap load of features to get visibility. Now they don't understand how much difficult this makes the life of good sellers with good conversion rate (rate of threads / sales) and real buyers. I have heard from many buyers saying that they find it really difficult to find quality threads. If we have some sort of logic - It would lead to a better qualitative environment. These logic can be based out of establishment, premium membership or something like this - If a person continues to post threads that sells, they must be given priority in posting more threads. If a person posts 5 threads every day and has not even yielded a single sale, what's the use of having him on the market place? He / she just pollutes the environment with horse shit threads and make the life of real buyers hard. These kind of folks must have some restriction. Could you re-visit your thought on this and let us know what you think? If this is too difficult to achieve from a technical / architectural standpoint, I can understand your reasoning.
For areas that we verify uniqueness (like domains and sites), there won't be any restriction. If someone actually has 100 domains to sell and they take the time to go through and verify ownership of each and every one, and they have never been listed before, why shouldn't they be able to sell them? As far as the content area... Tossing around the idea of deprecating that area since I don't really see a way to verify uniqueness of what's being sold and it's becoming more headache than it's worth. If you have an idea on how to do it, please feel free to share.
I understand, but I would still like to challenge you more. What if all those 100 domains are worthless to buyers? What if those 100 domains doesn't get sold at all? So from a DP standpoint, the sales / conversion aren't that important compared to page views which I understand because DP's business model is entirely different compared to other domain sales platform. However if we inject "quality" criteria here, we would end up building a more user centric platform. For example: Seller A has 100 crappy domains and is listing at the rate of 10 per day Seller B has 10 awesome domains and is listing at the rate of 1 per day Seller A sells nothing in 10 days. However Seller B is able to sell 8 domains. Now who do you think has added value to the system? Let's think from a buyer standpoint. He has to come to the marketplace / forums and filter all crappy domains to find the gems. If we have performance based restriction, then it would make the system more valuable right? I mean a person who sells more must be given good visibility in the front page of the forums. That's my one liner! For content area too, it is possible to do conversion / performance based restriction. If a person sells more and has a good track record of having good conversion (number of threads opened to number of them sold), they must be given opportunity to open more threads in a given day. If a person's conversion rate is so bad their opportunity must be minimal. Is this something that would work? Please suggest. I am not sure how complicated this would be for implementation and how it would be received by a non-tech savvy common man.
My solution is above. Cap the # of threads you can create in the content sub-forum in a 24 hour period. It's not fair on other sellers that some sellers feel the need to list a million sales threads to gain more exposure.
@samdar - your solution is subjective and making assumptions. Sure, it would be great to block all domains listed that are "crappy" (doesn't matter if they list 50 or just 1). But how exactly do you make that determination? What if someone wants to list 10 high quality domains (again, it's subjective, so how do you automatically make the determination of what's crappy and what's not). I think you are too hung up on the traditional forum view of the threads. All the serious/real sellers use the filters to find exactly what they want... https://marketplace.digitalpoint.com/sites @dcristo - yeah agreed... it's easier said than done though. There's all sorts of internal factors that need to be taken into account. For example if someone uses their bump, it would lock them out of being able to create a thread for 24 hours since that thread essentially was created when they bump it for all intensive purposes. You have the issue of threads being moved and how to handle those 24 hour collisions, etc. We'll figure something out at some point, but this is no where remotely close to the top of the priority list of things to work on. At this point I'd be more inclined to just shut down that section if my only option was to shut it down or move it up on the priority list.
I don't know anything about programming but is there not a way to "ignore all other rules" when those situations occur (bumps, moving threads, etc.)
For moving, yeah... you could make one-off rules/logic to handle it. For bumping, no... you couldn't. Since fundamentally the bumping mechanism essentially tricks the system into thinking the thread was created when it was bumped. Otherwise you would be left with an entire clusterfuck of stuff you would need to rewrite from scratch... like how threads are displayed, sorted, forum views, etc. Instead we keep that simple and trick the system into thinking it was just created. The rest (like sort order and stuff) just happen as a result of that "trickery".
I understand. There's too many assumptions. To get something like that, lot of testing needs to be done. It won't be easy. However if buyers are using market place to a greater extend then it should be fine.