Penguin 2 hit Wordpress, DP, Hotscripts, etc.

I'm not saying I disagree with you - I don't blindly purchase from big brands either. I'm simply saying that Google, like any website owner, can put whatever they want on their site and there's really not much you can do about it. You complaining over Google algo updates and what they are listing in their search results is the same as me complaining about stuff that is on your site. I can complain all I want, but it doesn't matter because it's YOUR site - the same applies with Google.

If you're unhappy with how Google is returning search results, use another service.
If you're unhappy with how Google is returning search results and how it's affecting your rankings and traffic, find other sources of traffic.

Just really not sure what you're trying to achieve with this thread, other than complaining.

 

Just wondering, for my small business, what would that source be?

 

Facebook
Pinterest
Twitter
Linkedin
StumbleUpon
Reddit
Blog Commenting
Guest Blogging
Forums
Bing
Yahoo
YouTube
Purchasing Banners/Links (Media Buys)
Purchasing Clicks (Pay-per-click)
Link Exchanges
Q & A Sites
Web Directories
Article Directories
Photo/Video/Document Sharing Sites
Social Bookmarking Sites

To name a few.

 

I think the problem with Google is that they don't explain the reasons for there changes! They just said that will help the users!

 

The problem Google is going to have is that some people will soon figure out that if they are searching for products to buy, then they don't even need to go to google. They will just go straight to amazon or ebay. You don't even need google for "reviews", they're mostly fake anyway. Amazon has real feedback from customers who actually purchased the product.

 

First, only free sources could be compared to SEO. Secondly, you might be having success with social media and guess posting, but, it always depends on so many factors just like SEO!

Anyways, People do trust Google, and SEO Traffic do convert the best.

 

First, Only 2 of the 20 resources I named were paid sources. Having success with any traffic generation method takes effort, just like SEO.

I was just trying to be helpful.

If you wish to focus primarily on Google traffic, that's your prerogative and I respect that. Me, I'll continue to put any working traffic sources I can into my traffic generation campaign so that I'm not 100% dependent upon Google.

Good luck.

 

Good luck to you too.

 

Where do you find them making fair results? They want money people who are spending on adwords are more often found on top google results.

I am more impressed with facebook these days. And i am promoting products on facebook with great success.

I don't care about google results anymore

 

wow, that quite a research about Penguin 2.0 effect. I didn't know GOogle could be so bias towards its competitors .... Bless you Google

 

The OP made a connection between Penguin 2.0 and Alexa. I'm not aware that there is a direct correlation between Google's algorithms and Alexa. But if there is, I'd be interested in hearing about that.

 

Digitalpoint : alexa rank

842 Global Rank Now

 

I think here should not live link

 

Did you look at the changes on Alexa? It is obvious one of two things happened?
1. The sites lost massive traffic after the Penguin 2 update.
2. Alexa's data became skewed for hundreds of sites since the Penguin 2 update.

I would tend to believe it is #1.

 

"Correlation does not imply causation".

DP was on an Alexa Rank decline long before Penguin 2.0 and Alexa is not really a reliable source (based upon people who use the toolbar and a lot of those are misguided people who believe having a high Alexa Rank means something).

Webmaster Forums often make me think of things such as The Lone Gunmen. Tinfoil hats should be handed out at login.

 

You are assuming the argument being made is fallacious, and therefore the conclusion is a fallacy too. That is a falacy!

When the answers are behind a corporate firewall, we correlate supporting evidence to attempt to establish a cause. Alexa is a source used by many reputable sites and agencies. It's not like I'm telling you global warming was caused by a decline in sea pirates. hehe

 

The fact alone that you use Alexa Rank as comparison, made me think "This is a hopelose thread".

 

Your argument is based upon a joke of a traffic measurement service, measured by a toolbar used heavily by spammers in the misguided belief Alexa Rank means anything. So, no, I don't give it any credibility at all. Credible are direct analytics from sites, for example. The fact that you included DP in the list shows you made zero effort to find any evidence to further support your "theory", really you just tried to be sensationalist.

You could have compared Alexa stats to stats offered by similar services (including direct measurement for some sites by Quantcast), but that wouldn't help you make a sensationalist conspiracy theory post, would it?

It is a fallacy to ignore "correlation does not imply causation" (at least any good researcher wouldn't). If it makes you feel better, you can continue mocking rather than providing a credible argument to support your conspiracy theory.

 

Did you actually look at Quantcast for DP before you made this generalization?
Dec 2012 - 703K
Jan 2013 - 461K (same drop as Alexa with the software change)
Feb 2013 - 574K
Mar 2013 - 653K
Apr 2013 - 649K
May 2013 - 590K (Penguin kicks in)
And look at compete for a very similar graph.

So now we have gone from 703K to 590K, a 17% drop (45% drop on Compete for a similar period). Quantcast isn't exactly a perfect science either, but when you have more sources correlating the data, it gets more interesting.

But believe whatever you want to believe. I'm not expecting expert answers on an open forum. Over on WMW you'll see a senior member and moderator telling you Alexa works pretty well for large sites.