Do u belive in God or Science?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by vjsinduja, Jun 14, 2009.

  1. deltagci

    deltagci Peon

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    #441
    Ah, it's complicated to say. I'll say God.
     
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  2. YurSem

    YurSem Peon

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    #442
    God made all, include Science.
     
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  3. Laceygirl

    Laceygirl Notable Member

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    #443
    OK, let's have a friendly debate;).
    I'll stick with stuff I know about. Let's talk about dinosaurs. What is the reason according to science that dinosaurs became extinct and the concluded answer that everyone would say?
    Allow me to answer. The 9mile long hole in the gulf of Mexico was an asteroid that hit. Basically the dust blocked the sun, the climate changed, hard to breathe, hard to live and everything died.
    This is the story that everyone is lead to believe and its not just a theory. You talk to paleotologists and they will actually get mad if you question it. The truth......Well its just another theory. There are over 200 theories on why dinosaurs became extinct but for some reason in the world of science they did close the book.
    Here's a unrelated thing I did understand. Professor Brian J Ford last week just released shocking news regarding dinosaurs "ALL dinosaurs lived in water". If you are a fan of BBC and discovery channel then last week you may have saw the 2 hour long documentary on "the discovery that all dinosaurs lived in water". What is the evidence on his new discovery? Brian J Fords evidence is as follows: Dinosaurs were too big and heavy to support themselves upright, tails were too large and cumbersome for them to hunt or move with agility, and its impossible to sustain their energy needs.
    I am not making this up. Last week this actually happened. A guy said some ridiculous claim then BBC discovery channel went nuts on this NEW INFORMATION(random guy saying something). I think we all got the point here. Even me.
    source:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...ust-have-lived-in-water-scientist-claims.html
    Surely you understand the difference between physical proof and people randomly making up an idea in their head then getting others to stick to it. that is the difference between your examples.
    All proof within religion is spiritual proof therefore one can see, feel, or know it, but others may not. the problem is you look at religion and want mathematical answers, but you don't realize that this is not how it works. Religion itself is for afterlife, inner peace and satisfaction, and freedom within. All of that....stuff. there is no need for scientific proof. You do see people of religion turning to science and demanding inner peace as an answer if science is correct. Of course not.
    The problem with the science guys is they love to disprove everything else. They want to be superior power. The world is flat, the end of the world is 1995, nope, 1997, nope 1999, nope, 2000, nope 2012........its all just a bunch of hype.
    there you go again. Looking for scientific answers on religion! You drive me crazy:cool:. What you are speaking of is a Metaphor. Its not too be taken literally. When they say he's your Father, it doesn't mean physically you were conceived from him. Its a spiritual thing. As in, your soul is replaced into a holy spirit(called spirit of god) which indicates that God lives in you. You cannot get evidence for that. The religious people can feel it though. They know for themselves. Anyway, I'm total a pro at this topic or many others in religion, but the whole point I'm trying to make is the holy spirit thing is literal but there is a lot of metaphors in religion for educational purposes. You are not suppose to see it as its said.
    I always considered technology not really good argue against religion considering that no matter what advancements happen is doesn't really line up against religion. If you want to talk about technology science then that's whole new debate.
    -My parents did buy a 50" full screen TV's new. Televisions that size just started to be available to the public back in 1991. they bought it new. Of course now they just stored it but it still works. It can out live one of the new 3D's any day. Here's the kicker. At the back of the TV it had over 100 different inserts for different types of cables. One of them being HDMI. HDMI was released to the public a decade later. Which proves that as far as science goes, the technology was there but they are releasing them in timelines for MONEY.
    -I also have one of those old neon 1980's phones in my hubbys workshop. It still works too which would out live any handheld home phone you buy today.
    -Go to the doctor and tell them you have depression or something and ask them for medication. They will probably tell you about a few, then pull out this list and recommend you some from the list. Ask them what the list is for and the doctor will tell you the Gov't distributes this list and makes them give out subscriptions for these new pills and they have a quota.
    -Does science even really cure much. So many years and billions of dollars and no cure for cancer, no cure for AIDS, no cure for the FLU.
    Science drops the ball all of the time. To the consumer they are stuck in a twister of new science that makes them spend money and in the end, only a few months later that NEW amazing advancement just is not that good anymore. While you think they are coming out with new things but really back when everyone had 1gig hard drives on their computer, they had nothing to be thrilled about when science introduced a better hard drive that was 5gigs. The truth is from the beginning they could have easily jumped to 200gigs.
    Its all BS.
    Do you have to talk down about people.
    Ok, here's some evidence. Long before you were even boring it said in the bible that people who don't believe in religion will MOCK.
    there is a big difference between debating, arguing, and mocking.
    You are the second person who doesn't believe who MOCKED so therefore you are acting exactly the way the bible has predicted you would act. Its not solid hard evidence but that along with 60,000 other predictions being correct does hold water.
    Funny thing the other guy who you have sided with said "people who pretend to know something (like you) - but know nothing" and "only by people who don't know the first thing about science - like you."
    More Mocking?
     
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  4. basilpbabu

    basilpbabu Greenhorn

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    #444
    Both god and science
     
    basilpbabu, Apr 7, 2012 IP
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    #445
    God for sure!
     
    Dr\Logo, Apr 8, 2012 IP
  6. Andraž Rihtar

    Andraž Rihtar Member

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    #446
    I don't believe in God, but I do believe in Science even though at current point in time they cannot answer all of our questions regarding how everything came to be. However we're getting there, one step at a time :)
     
    Andraž Rihtar, Apr 8, 2012 IP
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    #447
    I believe, that god created science :)
     
    Shapeshifter777, Apr 9, 2012 IP
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    gotoscore Greenhorn

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    #448
    Ouuuu big question! I don`t know what to say! Maybe both exist! And maybe humans do refere to god for everything that is out of their reach and everything that causes fear!! For everything else is Mastercard (just jokking, i thought it was the perfect time to use it :) ........ Science
     
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    Rukbat Well-Known Member

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    #449
    Shapeshifter, science isn't something that was created.
     
    Rukbat, Apr 9, 2012 IP
  10. silencespr

    silencespr Well-Known Member

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    #450
    Life is an accident nothing else, there is no after life there is no GOD you are here and then you are not and the universe won't even feel that you are gone.
     
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    #451
    JBS Haldane, a geneticist and evolutionary biologist once said, "... the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose."

    Never be so arrogant as to close the door on possibilities. We certainly do not know all the answers, and probably never will.
     
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  12. silencespr

    silencespr Well-Known Member

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    #452
    God created men 2000 years ago, that statement alone should make believers in to none believers.
    The money churches collect should be donated to space programs instead of lavish lives of the Popes.
     
    silencespr, Apr 12, 2012 IP
  13. Laceygirl

    Laceygirl Notable Member

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    #453
    Lol, no one said that.....Who said that?
    Well, the billions last time that got them to the moon was amazing because of the totally great pieces of rock that they brought back with them.
    No wait...... those same rock specimens were found in Antarctica as well.....
     
    Laceygirl, Apr 12, 2012 IP
  14. jcoutts1

    jcoutts1 Peon

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    #454
    No. Men (and women) have been on this planet for a teeny weeny bit longer than just 2,000 years. According to the experts in these matters, we human beings have been on earth for about 300,000 years. You are only 298,000 years out, but nothing to worry about really.

    As to church money being donated to space programs instead - great idea! I definitely back that one, but I'm not sure if the 2 billions Christians around the world would all agree. :)
     
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  15. Laceygirl

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  16. DangItsRichard

    DangItsRichard Greenhorn

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    #456
    Catholic, and God.
     
    DangItsRichard, Apr 19, 2012 IP
  17. jeannedubes

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    #457
    LOL funny explanation from you,TS..

    GOD creates a universe, and every little dna and atomic in this world. So GOD create human with the Big BRAIN inside, (Thanks GOD for that!) to think about science, so you guys human can think themselves and conclude anything such as REPRODUCTION SCIENCE. So, that science is exist because of God let it exist.

    But poor people, they forgot about their creator :'(
    they act like there is no GOD or sumthing, act like they are the smartest among all... LOL ROTFL
     
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  18. webdirectories.co

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    #458
    Low knowledge of science makes you atheists.
    High knowledge of science makes you believer.

    So its time for you to learn more science buddy its just the beginning.
     
    webdirectories.co, Jun 3, 2013 IP
  19. Petrarch

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    #459
    Science is based on facts and evidence. Religion is based on faith. For this reason, science's answers are the ones I accept.
     
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  20. alexandrubitca

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    #460
    I believe in Gods of science.
    Also, God is a scientist too :)
     
    alexandrubitca, Jun 13, 2013 IP