Multiple Sites, Same Server (IP), Bad for Search Engines???

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by landexcorp, Dec 3, 2006.

  1. #1
    I am targetting a rather large niche, I have a main site, Forum and Articles. Than I have 3 other subsites that will push traffic to this niche and help me build link ranking. I am planning to make at least 20 more of these sub sites.

    I have a highend dedicated server ($500+ a month) and a pretty intuitive content management system that makes my job pretty easy, but before I go about making 20 sites will them all being on the same server hurt me or possibly get me banned?

    Any suggestions around this, or should I keep some cheaper hosting packages and break them up between hosts so they come from seperate IPs.

    If this has been posted before, I did a search but couldn't find anything.
     
    landexcorp, Dec 3, 2006 IP
  2. aaron_nimocks

    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    Just buy 20 IPs from where you got your server. Probably cost like 30-40 a month extra.

    But having sites on the same IP and linking them together will NEVER HURT.
     
    aaron_nimocks, Dec 3, 2006 IP
  3. thebookish

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    As far as I know, it won't hurt your rank, as long as you don't create link farms or 3-way links, google won't try to ban you, but afterall, google has really strange things to count when ranking a site
     
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  4. landexcorp

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    Okay - so if it is 24.22.22.7 - 24.22.22.8 - 24.22.22.9 ip's it will help mroe than them all being 24.22.22.7???
     
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  5. aaron_nimocks

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    It will help the most being on different class C's. Heres a break down if you dont know what I mean.

    AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD

    Class C being the 3rd number. But having a different Class D is ok too.

    What you said is correct though.
     
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  6. landexcorp

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    Any idea, how much of a difference it would make. I think we have 5 or so IP's currently, I will talk to my server manager some more about my options.
     
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  7. aaron_nimocks

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    I would just stick to what you said. Getting different class C IPs is very expensive.
     
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  8. Monty

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    Are you definitive about that ?

    Even in case of heavy linking between sites ?
     
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  9. aaron_nimocks

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    Yes I am positive about that. It would never HURT. But it could be more benificial doing it another way.
     
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    Ok, I think I see what you mean.
    But I think I wouldn't try heavy linking between my sites on the same IP if I care for them.
    Because it doesn't hurt compare to "no links", but it does hurt compare to the same amount (even smaller amount maybe) of links from other IPs (other classe C specifically)
    And if one of those site is flagged (for one reason or another) as a "bad one", it's could hurt all of them, don't you think so ?
     
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  11. Diddy1

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  12. 127.0.0.1

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    #12
    Firstly IP Addressing does not work in classes these days. Check out http://infocenter.guardiandigital.com/manuals/IDDS/node9.html

    Also take into consideration when purchasing the domains that you ensure that the domains do not share the same whois information.

    Depending on the size of your current hosting company you are using for your dedicated and there set up it may be possible for them to give you Ips that are located within different networks. They can do it but they may not do it.

    127.0.0.1
     
    127.0.0.1, Dec 3, 2006 IP
  13. aaron_nimocks

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  14. almir

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    Agree, you'll wont have as much benefits like when you have links from others IPs, but it cant hurt you definitelly.
     
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  15. landexcorp

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    Any strategies someone has used to recitfy this? I would assume, I can talk to my host and point each site to a different IP.
     
    landexcorp, Dec 3, 2006 IP
  16. 127.0.0.1

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    landexcorp,

    The hosting company will assist with the IP addressing.

    How you link them together will take time and planning.

    I would read up on direct edges, hidden edges and advanced linking.

    http://www.cs.cornell.edu/home/kleinber/auth.pdf

    some good things there.

    You will need to work this part out yourself

    127.0.0.1
     
    127.0.0.1, Dec 3, 2006 IP
  17. landexcorp

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    Thanks guys! I appreciate the help.
     
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  18. thegypsy

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    2 words ---

    Owner Profiles

    Some tidbits from a recent Matt Cutts site reviews at PubCon

    Snippet

    More from Matt Cutts site reviews

    There is more rattling on it over at Thread Watch ; http://www.threadwatch.org/node/10404

    For those whom don’t know, Google owns a domain registrar so they have access to whois and other registrar info (for some time now) and they didn’t buy in to be the next Go Daddy, if you know what I mean

    So simply having Geographically diverse Class C IPs may no longer be the Golden Goose
     
    thegypsy, Dec 3, 2006 IP
  19. coolsitez

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    Does this really mean hosting on shared or different IPs have the same effect now in terms of cross linking?

    Btw, I was thinking of getting a service for different IP hosting. Anyone here to recommend which server, service?
     
    coolsitez, Dec 8, 2006 IP
  20. thegypsy

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    Well all we can conclude is that MATT is thinking that way.. but probably not a big leap to say if it isn't in place, it may be soon...

    G did buy a Domain Registrar a while back.. not like they're selling domains right?
     
    thegypsy, Dec 8, 2006 IP