Ranked high with PR0 - among 57,200,000

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by coolsitez, Dec 2, 2006.

  1. #1
    I know a site that is PR0 but ranked very high in Google. On-page SEO is rather normal but it got lots of backlinks, possibly 10 or more are links from authority sites.

    My question is that is it possible for this farily new site (the site was created not too long ago, within 2-3 months, though the domain is about a year old) to be ranked so high in just few months?

    I have been promoting a blog with the same keyword(s) before their site was made. Do you think quality backlinks simply beat any other SEO techniques in such a short period of time?
     
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  2. Skellig

    Skellig Active Member

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    In short yes, quality backlinks are the most important thing.
     
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    terryuk Notable Member

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    Quality links are good, you need to be taking in other factors other than pagerank if your buying links such as website age and relevancy. And remember just because the toolbar says PR0 , it may have a PR6......
     
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  4. coolsitez

    coolsitez Well-Known Member

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    The PR is 0 because it's new. It may go up to PR6 or 7 in the next update, but the site didn't even exist few month ago.

    Another site with the same keyword, created last month also got in top 10 by the way. This one has only 2000 + backlinks, but I am sure they have high PR backlinks as well.

    It was so sudden to see them at the top. (probably took only a week or so to get top 10 from nowhere at Google)
     
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  5. terryuk

    terryuk Notable Member

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    Well they COULD be using blackhat seo methods, but i cant say anything without seeing the sites etc. But how old is your website? It may be sandboxed..or is it ranked atall?
     
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  6. coolsitez

    coolsitez Well-Known Member

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    I can guarantee you that they don't do blak SEO :) nor they know so much of SEO. It is not operated by a single webmaster for Adsense, not like that.

    It is not my site btw.
     
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    terryuk Notable Member

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    Well they must know some SEO to get high rankings in a competitive niche in such short time ;) I cant really help you without seeing the URL's but try and get relevant and aged backlinks, and don't do it on just a monthly basis. Good luck
    ~tez
     
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  8. coolsitez

    coolsitez Well-Known Member

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    Actually, I would guess that many sites linked to this site. I highly doubt that they even bought a link.

    Let me just say that the site got and is extremely popular. Almost no need to advertise or SEO.

    But the fact they got in top 10 is the backlinks they gained in just 1 or 2 months. (possibly in 2-3 weeks)

    That's why I wanted to ask if backlinks only could boost your SERP so quickly.
     
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  9. terryuk

    terryuk Notable Member

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    Well you never know, they might be penalized for getting so many links in such short time! Check out www.backlinkwatch.com to see what sort of sites are linking to it, pagerank and anchor text :)
     
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  10. coolsitez

    coolsitez Well-Known Member

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    Hey thanks for the backlink checker. I guess I should disclose some more.

    Using that tool:

    Total backlinks - 176768
    PR6 link - 39

    Lots of PR5, PR4, and 2-3 PR7

    If you see this, I know that the site should be ranked so high, and I expected that. But what aobut sandbox?
     
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  11. kevinn

    kevinn Active Member

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    It's a toolbar PR0. PR changes daily internally with google. So you might see a PR0 on your toolbar but the site could be a PR5,6 or 7 internally with google.

    The Toolbar PR is only information available to the public since the last update. The current PR could be higher or lower.
     
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  12. coolsitez

    coolsitez Well-Known Member

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    No the current PR is 0. I have checked it at http://livepr.raketforskning.com

    Besides, like I said, the site was created only 1-2 month ago. It takes time to get the PR as you already know...
     
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    What is the url of the site?
     
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    kevinn Active Member

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    I have a site that is 2 months old that is ranking on the first page for a very competitive search term and it's a PR0. I have not used any blackhat techniques or anything else.
     
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    just-4-teens Peon

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    just goes to show how important pagerank really is :\
     
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    maahan Banned

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    #16
    where can i get good back links any one know
     
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    Wow, The backlink watch site is cool, thanks.
     
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    ishan Prominent Member

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    Well Its the same case with my site - cashout-now.info for the word cashout it ranks 10th in google. (sometimes 11th) . It is PR0 . I lauched it just 2 mnths ago.
     
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    no probs ;)
     
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  20. coolsitez

    coolsitez Well-Known Member

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    Well yes, if not so competitive, any keyword would do that. But do the web pages exist over 57,200,000 with your keyword? :)

     
    coolsitez, Dec 4, 2006 IP