Fully support the whole thread. The worst of all is the kind of "advice" these so-called experts give - most of it will get you slapped by Big G... and unfortunately there are lots of newbies that will fall for it!
And the thing is, they are not even able to optimize their own website and they would claim that they deliver quality and fast works according to your expectation.
Exactly. If they was good at it the would be doing it for their own sites and building more sites. But they are not making money with their sites so they have to resort to selling links or claiming to be SEO's.
You are correct sir There is no such thing as SEO anymore Considering - That its all SOCIAL !!! SEO stands for SEARCH engine marketing.... Social Engineering is the future , forget SEO hint hint - Look at the NEW DP ( ALL social