I probably wont be "liking" too much content because of this reason pulled from the rules: First let me start off by saying: I know this rule is in place to crack down on people feeding likes to people. A "dumb thing" is open to anyone's interpretation and could easily lead to a ban. Since there's not much of an explanation to what is an acceptable like. I wouldn't want to risk putting my account being put in jeopardy over a moderators opinion, or getting caught in a suspicious trail even though I was acting out of innocence. My account was banned once for referring two members to this forum. They were two older people that was just learning about marketing their businesses online. One of the things I suggested was to join this forum to help get questions answered and also use the marketplace once your account reaches the thresholds. To help them out I had them sign up at my house and walk them through the process. I shortly realized both of their accounts were denied and my personal account was banned for "Duplicate Accounts". (I'm assuming it was because they registered from my same IP address). Even though this wasn't the case... I was just trying to help them out. I also understand why this rule is in effect - but again, in this situation I was acting out of innocence and I paid the consequence for it. I didn't have a thought in my mind that I'd get banned for trying to have people sign up. Additionally... I tried to contact support of any kind (messaged on twitter, looked all over the site for contact details or moderator support) to explain my situation and I got zero response. So if users expect this type of environment - more people wont be willing to risk their account just for liking someone's content. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this post somehow... when I'm trying to give some honest feedback. But it's worth one last shot. P.S. I'm not posting this complaining that I don't have enough likes, or not enough people are liking my content. At the time of writing this I have 3 likes and could care less if I get more. Trying to help the community.
The moderators are not just sitting there watching everything that each member likes. They would have no reason to suspect like fraud unless there was obvious evidence. For example, if you asked for likes in a thread and someone liked that post. It's simple really. Don't make it rain "likes" like they are dollar bills at a strip club in each topic and you will be fine.
Do you really think that mods or admin know that you are trying to help people out? You open 3 accounts from same IP, for them as much as for me, it's called multiple accounts, doesn't matter if they are not your accounts or not, they are not going thru 600 000 members asking why they have signup to the forum from same IP, get real. Now, you are still taking staff for dumb people, obviously there is much difference between a dumb post: "Hello all I am from Mars" IG2010 like this => dumb like for a dumb post = warning And a usefull post or at least a post that brings something that people might really like.
For God's sake...just use good old fashioned common sense when you decide to give out a like. Are you not an adult? Do you need someone to help you to decide the difference between a quality and a crap post? If you can't tell the difference then *you* are the type of member that we need to get rid of.
Chill out a little. Like what you want, and don't worry so much. Really, that part of the rule should be understood without putting it in writing, but the admin here probably put it in the rules to keep people from abusing it and then complaining they didnt know they weren't allowed to abuse it. Also, my sister and my son have an account on DP. I was banned for 90 days. It pissed me off because I had previously notified some staff about the situation....... but too many dots were connected that shouldnt have been. I would guess it was because of sharing an email address with my son, and/or a paypal address with my sis before she got her netspend card. There are a kajillion different assumptions that can be made by a moderator.... and usually they are right. I'm just telling you this so you dont feel like you are being singled out. PS. My son never got paid for the job he did here and he got pissed and probably wont ever come back. LoL! ^^Yeah, I might like a post like that, depending on what else is going on in the thread .
Did you not see the part where I said "I also understand why this rule is in effect". I understand why it's there. It's automation to prevent a lot of people abusing the system. However it's not perfect (obviously!). I didn't say the rule was messed up, I didn't say they should go through 600,000 members and ask why they have multiple sign ups. The problem is the lack of support AFTER it happened to the wrong person, because obviously it's no fail-proof. The realization that "If I like this, it's open to someone's interpretation of "dumb post" might get me banned and there will be absolutely no support on the other end to rectify it, because - just like you said - there's 600,000 members they couldn't possibly care to make sure all of them are just fine and dandy." Will make people a bit hesitant to freely like content. Simply asking for a clarification in the rules. What if I liked a completely "dbag" comment because (hypotheticals incoming) it made my terrible day a good one, or changed my perspective, or someone was straight forward enough to "tell me like it is" in order to help me. What if I liked something that I felt provided quality and a moderator felt it was of zero quality. Obviously we all have different terms of quality. Or - what if by chance I gave someone a like that posted something that he straight copy/pasted from another site, but I've never seen it before. Two of his other likes were from people feeding him likes. And I got banned because it looked questionable? And after being banned - there wont be any support because there's 599,999 other me's out there so who gives right? It's all just a number. If the rules were more clearly written, or there was a stance by the staff to help people if something happened incorrectly - then this wouldn't be an issue. Once again, I love how you guys are so defensive in a feedback forum. @Spoiltdiva I don't have to worry about common sense. I wont be sharing the like-love For the above reasons. And I've talked to quite a few people with the same apprehensions. But hey, we're all just teenagers with no common sense. Oh by the way, I love you and think you're a beautiful person. =)
Yep, that's all I was saying. Usually they are right. But for the times where they aren't... a helping hand would be nice to see. If not, people are going to be a bit apprehensive about giving likes out. And a few already are, including myself.
Don't want them and don't need them. It wasn't sarcasm though. Just letting you know that I fully appreciate you. Felt the vibes you needed some love.
We come and defend the system because smart people come around and ask the same question again and again, those people DO understand blah blah and ask how to prevent things, they say they are smart and obviously they won't do that, even then, most of them don't even care about the like system but still they come, post a new thread on a subject that has been posted about 10 times and where Shawn replied about 10 times and what I noticed is those smart people are not even bothered to use the search function as obviously when you open the feedback forum you can't see those threads one under each other. So what to do to prevent the fact that you have accidently liked a post that eventually could be qualify as dumb (not taking into account that only abuses and obvious fake like are warned) then, politly report the post saying that you have accidently clicked the like link (small enough to not accidently click on it) I am not here to defend the the rule, I could not care more that people get ban for being dumb enough to abuse the like button clicking like mad on a newbie just to get the 3-like-talisman, I am just fed up of that same old story poping up everyday and turned differently.
Except as you said in other posts you implemented the like system in order to encourage quality posts instead of an onslaught of low quality posts. Sure no one HAS to use it... but you WANT them to use it to encourage high quality content.
Pretty sure people will keep posting quality content, your declaration not to issue any likes notwithstanding.
If one person out of 669,000 users doesn't want to use it because they are scared of being banned, my best suggestion to them would simply be to not use it. I mean if they are going to loose sleep over it or whatever. lol
I got 3 warning points just because I used the like feature. What I see is you being scared on how users are going to use the like system more than users themselves. I may like any kind of post, dumb or not, I may like a specific post just because it is dumb or any other human natural sense. You are not going to convince me when should I use the like feature since you call it "like". In other cases just name it "rate" or any other synonyms, but not like.
Great suggestion. I love your opinion of your users. You're one of the many examples that make Zappos, Amazon, and other Customer focused companies look so "revolutionary". "lol"
Not really sure what kind of response you expected... if a customer of Amazon doesn't want to use a function of Amazon (let's say Amazon's 1-Click Ordering), do you think their customer service department is going to call up that customer and try to talk them into using it? I doubt it... I doubt they would care if someone didn't use it (and they are even making money from those customers). "I don't want to use a part of your site..." "Okay, don't use that part." Seems pretty logical to me. Also, those are also companies trying to sell stuff to people. I'm not trying to sell something to you, and I'm more certainly not trying to talk you into using the Like system if you don't want to use it. When it comes down to it, you also aren't a customer of mine (I actually have no idea who you are or what your name even is). If we had "customers" in a more traditional sense, I'm sure we would probably be more customer focused... but trying to talk users into using a part of the site they aren't interested in, still wouldn't be our focus.