Newbie expectng some sound advice

Discussion in 'PHP' started by sandy121, May 18, 2010.

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    Buddies, I want to learn PHP on my own. I have no prior knowledge of HTML,XHTML.CSS and other web stuffs. How can I initiate my learning process? Anyone have any good ebook for PHP beginners? Thanks in advance.
     
    sandy121, May 18, 2010 IP
  2. shubhamjain

    shubhamjain Active Member

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    Download XAMPP and install it. It is a pre Configured Install Kit by which you can run PHP script on your computer.

    Then lear the basics from w3schools. After that you can experiment on various function given in the PHP manual.

    An advice: If you make a script, or crack a tough problem record it in a document.
     
    shubhamjain, May 18, 2010 IP
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    Rukbat Well-Known Member

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    1) PHP is used to create HTML, CSS and Javascript. If you don't know them, you're learning how to use a tool that you have no use for. Learn HTML and CSS first.

    2) PHP is a programming language. If you don't know programming, learning PHP is a waste of effort, because you won't know what to do with it once you learn it. Start with Algorithms and Data Structures

    If all you want to do is play around, learn PHP, but you'll never really be able to do much with it.

    (Don't try to learn Javascript until you learn programming either - it's also a programming language.)
     
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    So basically, php is a tool not a language like HTML ?
    But I have a web site designed in php I wanted some modifications and I posted a job in Odesk where some said designing in php is difficult so he wanted to design it in HTML5. When designing in HTML5 can we get the same look and quality. Please advice.
     
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    HTML is a markup language - it describes what's on the page. PHP is a programming language. Languages are tools. Knowing tools but not what to use them for is useless.

    1) Developing in PHP isn't difficult - to a real web developer. To a "I read a book, now I can make money claiming to be a web developer" faker, it's very difficult. A real web developer who's very good with ASP.Net but doesn't know PHP wouldn't bid on a PHP job.

    2) PHP is used to create the HTML for the page. If he doesn't know that, he doesn't know enough to develop or modify a web page.

    3) He can't modify a PHP page without understanding computer programming and knowing PHP.

    4) HTML5 is an abortion that serves only 1 purpose - it allows people who don't understand how a website works to fake making web sites. Anyone who can't do a site in HTML 4.01 should take up surgery as a profession - they'll be just as good at surgery as they are at web development - not at all.
     
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    omgitsfletch Well-Known Member

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    Hehe not to pick too many nits, but I've bid on jobs outside my comfort zone (Python in particular), with very little practical knowledge beforehand. This was to basically give myself a crash course in Python and allow me to get paid doing it! Granted, this is not something that is feasible for anything beyond basic projects, and not for anyone short of a pretty damn proficient, well rounded developer :)
     
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    Thank you it was very much useful.
     
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    Learn from your mistakes and the mistakes of others... In time you'll be a pro... just jump in and get started or you'll never know how good you could be or not :)

    EDIT: FFS this thread is nearly 3 years old:oops: I wonder how Sandy is getting on?
     
    MyVodaFone, Feb 6, 2013 IP