Do We Need To Be A Paid Member To Start Selling Websites?

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  1. #1
    I'm not able to start auction for selling one of my website. Are free members no more allowed to start auction?
     
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  2. snakeair

    snakeair Notable Member

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    Read the rules to find out. I just a fast search as I need to fill up my coffee mug before I go nuts without caffeine.

    Source: https://forums.digitalpoint.com/help/established
     
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  3. RoachBlogger

    RoachBlogger Active Member

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    No you do not need to be a paid member however that stops you needing the three likes on posts. If you go the unpaid option you need to be here for 48 hours and get 3 likes on your content from established members.
     
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    archc Banned

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    I went to this page before you post here but who gonna decide whether I'm established member or not?
    If you see how long am I a member of DP, the answer is one year!
    If you say how much posts do I have, its close to 300 and half

    I feel being a member for about a year and having post count over 350 makes you an Established member
     
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  5. archc

    archc Banned

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    I'm not going to like this rule. By doing this, DP pushing its members to other forums
     
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    RoachBlogger Active Member

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    It is more about quality rather than quality in this new version of Digital Point. If your posts are quality and get noticed by other established members or staff then you will accumulate likes on these posts and then become an established member after three likes have been given.

    I am not saying it is a perfect system by no means, but I think it is a lot better system than what used to happen.
     
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  7. archc

    archc Banned

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    Even If I like some posts, I don't bother to share, or like most of the time.
    Sorry, didn't like it.

     
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  8. RoachBlogger

    RoachBlogger Active Member

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    That is a personal preference in my opinion. Many members do like other peoples posts when there is something good produced. Xenforo is big on the like system, it is basically the way of adding a reputation point to a user on xF. Once it all settles down I think the like system will be used a lot. Nonetheless, some people will not be happy with some changes, that is just life and I guess you are one of them but I can not see there been much of an issue in the future.
     
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  9. archc

    archc Banned

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    I understand what you are saying but there should not be any criteria that member has to get at least 3 likes before he/she be able to use any feature of this forum however giving likes to any member by other members should help him gain reputation.
    Now I'm not able to start thread for selling my site unless I have 3 likes.
     
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    archc Banned

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    It is a result of this new rule that I can't see any new FOR SALE listing for many hours. DP used to get many auctions in a minute before.
     
    archc, Jan 21, 2013 IP
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    love2all Member

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    Be patient, still I'm also not completely understand the new policies of DP, but hope will aware soon after visiting its all sections and follow its rules.

     
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  12. surfnearnzone

    surfnearnzone Well-Known Member

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    it is not so difficult. it is a forum and if you treat it as such rather than just make it your ATM I think you will really do well. Likes are what you get when you give back to the community by helping someone or appreciating someone for their help or simply lightening up the mood of people reading that thread or post. The basic function of any good forum is just that, rest are simply perks. I don't see anything wrong with it. If you are not into community, I think foruming may not be for you. I know many great IMer's who are great forumers too which helped their "career" so i think the new rule is just right, that promotes foruming more than making this forum an ATM.
     
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    jimmyn115 Member

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    The problem is, this forum was as much of a marketplace for some people, as it was a forum for some others like yourself.

    Lots of people built up reputation using itrader by dealing with fellow members of the community, and gained "likes" and established membership this way.

    To me it has rewarded people who spend time posting on the forums rather than those who've been doing business on them.

    Now we'll have to spend time joining the pointless threads about Does Sir still like Social Bookmarking Dear?, or whether or not people like Cricket, just to get some likes so we can carry on doing business!

    The new forum may discourage these types of pointless threads eventually, but it doesn't look like it so far!
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    How many "likes" do you expect to get from posting pointless posts? lol
     
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    Probably none! But neither do i expect to get likes from adding "value" to that type of thread.
     
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    archc Banned

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    Thumps up !!! That's what I meant
    "surfnearnzone" didn't understand.
    Jimm, I was to give you like for this answer but couldn't find out how to do that LOL, my bad even liking someone's post is not that easy.

    This probably be a good step by DP to earn (People have choice to start thread to sell their website instantly the moment they become premium member) but they are diverting their traders to other forums as most of the members here are free and not willing to pay.

     
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    archc Banned

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    Who is helvetti helping all of us :D

    Thanks for liking. My aim is to get 3 likes so that I could start an auction of selling my site which probably won't be sold for more than $20 lol
     
    archc, Jan 22, 2013 IP
  18. surfnearnzone

    surfnearnzone Well-Known Member

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    As a matter of fact I did understand and that is exactly what I pointed out to. I know people have simply been using the marketplace, and this liking system discourages that for that very purpose, that before you go to the marketplace you need to contribute positively to the forum.

    And you never get likes for creating or joining pointless threads but taking part in the discussions. Just for a jump start I gave you a like right now because your reply amused me :) . Did you see...... it is not that difficult. Most of my likes too came that way and before even this point system was developed.

    That is what I had pointed in my reply too that you can get likes by simply contributing. You don't necessarily need to create super genius threads (that too won't guarantee likes) nor join pointless threads (they will eventually be pulled down by mods, perhaps). Just take part in discussions rather than making it a hardcore place for buying and selling.

    when that happens people destroy the value of this forum to the other people who are not here for the marketplace but the forum, which is I guess and hope is the prime purpose of this forum (to make it an interactive place and not a hardcore marketplace). So in that respect, this new system is perfect.

     
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    archc Banned

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    Thanks for the like.

    If this is all about getting likes, you will be seeing many thread on other forums where people will seek others help to get likes on DP, they even offer money which ultimately a contradict to your statement that we should give something to the community. This way you spamming other forums and not contributing to the community. The community doesn't confined to DP only. People will start bogus threads and will ask their friends to like it. Moreover, if you really want to give something to the community, why am I allowed to start a thread in Marketplace section soon after I become paid member irrespective of how long I have been a member of DP? I always been a FAN of DP and hats off to them for providing such a good channel to connect buyers with sellers and vice versa for such a long time but I didn't like this "Like" system.

    People will contact guys on their gtalk/skype who are a member of DP and will REQUEST them to like their replies. The importance of Liking system will become NIL.

    Do you think you will get likes only if you post super genius answer ? I'm sure many of the members of DP are interlinked, one will start a bogus thread and ask other 3 to like it, what a big deal? then why encourage people to adopt wrong method which may result in loss of user base as no all want to go by wrong way including me. Let people use DP freely (freely I meant FREEDOM as before) as before (I didn't mean to give them privileges to use premium services for free)

    Other advice which DP should take into consideration, I being a webmaster understand users behavior, whenever they feel the site is not easy to navigate, or taking too long to load, or don't allow them to use features unless they are given certain privileges, they start searching alternative which is a loss to DP in terms of user base and popularity. DP giving room other forums to compete.



     
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  20. surfnearnzone

    surfnearnzone Well-Known Member

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    First, it is not just about getting likes but more about showing your worth to other people. One can always check where the person has been getting his likes from.

    Second, what you are saying will not stick as no one can influence anyone's free will, no matter what they try. The answer to all your questions lie in that single underlined statement. A community means community on any other forum you try. Forums may change but people will not.

    If this were not true, I and many other people would be so-so-so rich simply taking advantage of other people.

    I understand scammers trying to game the system, but understand this, mods are people too and there are other people (forum members) too who are not dumb and can smell a scam as fast as it appears. If scammers are smart trying to game the system, then mods and other people are smarter who will just do the opposite to the scammers. As for people leaving to go to other forums, if that were true, warrior forum and other forums like it, following similar kinds of security protocol, should have been closed by now.

    Try to see the balance of the feature rather than just one side of it. No system is completely perfect and no system will ever be, but something must start somewhere and keep improving as it goes. A secure place always attracts more people as against what your views are.

    If you were to keep your money safe, which bank will you choose, a bank without security or bank with security, although sometimes bank with security get robbed too........

    because a paid member only gets the freedom for extra activity and not the immunity from getting banned and as such he would supposedly be more careful of what he posts rather than a free member who has nothing to loose.


    Being a member of this forum for half a decade long, I support the new changes to the forum.

     
    surfnearnzone, Jan 22, 2013 IP