France and Canada confronting violent Islamic terrorism

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  2. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Not that I'm knocking the effort, but do you really think sending a few troops to a nation is going to have an effect on their culture?
     
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  3. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    whose culture: Mali's, France's or Canada's? be more specific.

    frankly I wasn't thinking, concerned or considering "culture". I like seeing other Western nations taking actions against fundamentalist terrorists. What do you think? Do you think that because the French like brie everything about the French is soft and gooey?
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Mali's. The terrorists in Mali will be there long after France, Canada, or whoever else sends troops is gone. Their religion, their corruption, their way of dealing with others is all part of their culture and no amount of peace keeping is going to change that.

    You talked about opposition to gay marriage in the US and you correctly pointed out that younger folk just accept it as normal. Gay marriage is not part of the culture of the older generation, and when they all die off, gay marriage will be part of our culture.

    All the corruption, hatred, and fundamentalism you see in Mali is part of who they are. Unless you are an advocate for genocide, it quite simply is not going to change.
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    I don't know anything about Mali's culture. who wants terrorists everywhere, though. their goal is to kill you me and everyone else who doesn't subscribe to their violent extremist cultures. I believe in shooting em up and squashing them, and also developing populations who want to fight them. Its certainly neither easy, inexpensive or short term. I liked the fact that other western nations want to kill them also.

    I don't know everything nor have opinions on everything. don't like terrorists though.
     
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    My new years resolution is to blame whatever i dont like on Canada, so this could work out to my advantage.
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    you forgot the french and brie and being soft and squishy.
     
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    johnfambrini Greenhorn

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    It is fashionable these days to hate Islam and Muslims and make sweeping prejudicial genocidal comments about them but it won't hurt to visit a few Muslims and read a few pages of the Quran. With millions of Islamic sites only a few keystrokes away ignorance about Islam and Muslims is a choice.
     
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    Do you mean the same guys that USA gave weapons to in Libya and still is giving to in Syria? The guys in Mali are stupid, they should try to find some kind of natural resource to give to USA in exchange for weapons before starting to make trouble.
     
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    Fashionable? Hating Muslims was made fashionable by Muslims, and so far the more vocal Muslims on this forum have done nothing but further that effort.

    Perhaps you should learn about Islam by watching the news instead of reading the Qu'ran. Do you think you could learn anything about crusaders by reading the bible? How about Spanish conquistadors? I've never heard of anything so absurd.
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    I hope they were 100 terrorists: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/12/mali-somalia-france-rebels-islamist-francois-hollande. It would be a great strategy for the West to simply play cat and mouse, give the fundamentalists the idea that the western military won't do anything. then the terrorists will mass into areas where they become easier sitting duck targets and western technology could wipe out a lot at one time.

    When the fundamentalist terrorists are in hiding in mountains or hiding behind civilians they are harder to send to the big world of virgins in the sky.

    My $0.02 for the day. :D
     
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    You could just send them all movie tickets or a winning lottery ticket. It works on American crooks apparently. I don't think terrorists will prove any smarter.
     
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    I think you should rephrase it as the fundamentalist Muslims, and not Islam. Islam or any other religion is not responsible for the actions of any individuals.
     
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    And if they weren´t terrorist, what would be your answer? Will it be "so what, we have weapons we can kill anyone we like." ?:rolleyes:

    A lot of people in western countries are too stupid to understand the reality of the situation. In places like Mali, Iraq, Afghanistan people die everyday and more people are born everyday. It is no big deal, in fact most families have more children than they want because they expect maybe half of them will die of different causes before they become adults. Death is a fact of life and it cost these type of organizations nothing while every US soldiers have 500,000 USD life policy, not to mention the other costs.
    The only way to solve this kind of problem is to solve the social issues that are causing them. It is unbelievable that after losing in Afghanistan and Iraq during the last decade, the average American haven´t learned anything and just keep repeating as an answer to every problem: we have a lot of guns and can kill people.
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    Gworld: first I'm surprised you returned here. but c'est la vie.

    The fundamentalists within Islam that practice Sharia law have imposed hated regimes wherever they have gained power. Thousands of people have fled North Mali, walking across desert to flee these pigs. The people who flee are muslims. http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/wor...-mali-north/Ss6uZvJkM3cIwOEQO5pArN/story.html

    those Islamic Malians who have fled the north in large numbers are not taking a jaunt to disneyland. They take the hardest path through the worst conditions to escape something they consider worse.

    The fundamentalists in Northern Mali hate you, as much as me. You can say what you like...but you aren't their friend unless you totally embrace sharia law.

    They evidently enjoy martyrdom and death. I support that. We should encourage that. I hope they mass in large numbers so superior technology can blow them to kingdom come. All sorts of people will benefit that, primarily and most immediately the more moderate Islamics that have populated Northern Mali and primarily don't wish to fight anyone.

    Good for the French.
     
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    Thank you for not answering a single point in my post. After losing in Iraq and Afghanistan, Islamist are USA´s newest friends. Look at the governments in Iraq,Egypt, Libya, soon Syria and in couple of years Afghanistan. They are all Islamist that want Sharia Law and they all there because USA wants it. It is becoming impossible to keep old dictators in power and USA is going back to the 1980´s when it aliened itself with Islam from the political point of view, except this time it is not about fighting Communism, it is about defending Capitalism. Muslim politicians are as corrupt and savage as any neo-con in USA.
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    Those guys are so unbelievably miserable. Just how bad? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-mali-the-answer-in-four-powerful-paragraphs/

    I'm sure if they ran into you on the street GWorld, and the options were there without obvious retaliation they'd torture or kill you and they'd praise allah while doing it.

    I'm aware you'd like to blame the west and the US for most problems in the world. Nobody is perfect, but in the realm of bad and evil and dangerous to one and all....those al-quada types are at the worst end.

    Bomb em, bomb em. bomb em. they invite it.
     
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    Thanks for not answering anything in my post as usual. You don´t need to worry about me, I am quite capable of defending myself and unlike many Americans don´t need to hide and be scared from bad Muslims.
    The problem is that Al-quada and American neo-cons are 2 sides of the same coin and it seems they are going to be very good friends as long as they can benefit from each other. You give us your minerals and we give you Sharia laws. :rolleyes:
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    You really call flying sorties with piper cubs and dropping snap caps a leadership role in the fight against terrorism? 99.999% of Americans have no idea where Mali is, and the other .9 don't care.
     
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    Earl, if you don´t believe mia, just look at the history of his postings on this forum. He is the poster child for American ignorance. :rolleyes:
     
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