Glenn Beck's CNN special about Islam

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  1. #1
    I was wondering how many of you have seen Glenn Beck's special about Islam last night and what you have gotten out of it.
     
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  2. MattKNC

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    I missed it. Beck is an interesting person, a Mormon at that, and a bit different from the run of the mill CNN personality. I imagine it was provocative. Will it be re-aired anytime soon?
     
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    I watch his show all the time, so ive probly seen it. was it aired Saturday? Because i was comming back from vacation (1100 miles) and caught a glimpse of his show at a rest stop.
     
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    It has not been released in Asia yet but will be interested to see the perspective from a Mormon
     
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    Hmm, didn't know he was a mormon. Still, his show was spot on.
     
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    Wikipedia cites his conversion to Mormonism during his adult years. Although I have not heard him say that he is a Mormon, when he had JetBlue Airway's boss on the show he indicated that they attended the same church.

    I had already known that David Neeleman, JetBlue's CEO was a Mormon, thus my conclusion.

    Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Beck
     
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    Confused on why his perspective as a Mormon would be profound or what? Would it be any different than the majority of the world or what? I am confused on why his religion would put a twist on or something.
     
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    A lot of religions like to point out the celebrity status of members. It makes them seem more credible in the same way celebrities make products more credible.

    Tom Cruise is a Scientologist. Hardly speaks well for the religion.
     
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    For a couple of reasons:

    1. He is an unusual person for CNN, a left leaning media outfit.

    2. The Mormon's perspective on life, eternity, end times, etc. is quite a bit different from most and may or may not impact his worldview.

    Other than that, I find Beck to be a refreshing change for CNN regardless of his beliefs.
     
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    Yes I know this. Because I am a Mormon and was wondering why still? What would his religion do with a report he did for CNN and the Muslim way of life? Thats why I am asking. I would expect him to do his job before he would instill his religious belief into his report. Unless somehow coordinated with the Muslim belief and or way of life.

    My apologies. I am sorry if I coming off wrong. Just curious thats all.
     
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  11. MattKNC

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    As I mentioned, I did not see his special. My initial reference to his LDS background was only made to underscore his conservative beliefs, something that runs counter with the typical CNN personality.
     
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    True about the typical CNN personality since I find that CNN is a very biased station to say the least.

    But even with the conservative beliefs that the Mormons have, you may find many who are democrats. Many who are in the entertainment, sporting industry etc. that would suprise many despite their conservative, religious belief.
     
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    www.shareislam.com why do people trust neo con views to the truth if you want to learn THEN learn from of your people who converted to ISLAM YUSUF estes . He was a PRIEST yes a priest !!

    Born A Strong Christian

    I was born into a very strong Christian family in the Midwest. Our family and their ancestors not only built the churches and schools across this land, but actually were the same ones who came here in the first place. While I was still in elementary we relocated in Houston, Texas in 1949 (I'm old). We attended church regularly and I was baptized at the age of 12 in Pasadena, Texas. As a teenager, I wanted to visit other churches to learn more of their teachings and beliefs. The Baptists, Methodists, Episcopalians, Charismatic movements, Nazarene, Church of Christ, Church of God, Church of God in Christ, Full Gospel, Agape, Catholic, Presbyterian and many more. I developed quite a thirst for the "Gospel" or as we say; "Good News." My research into religion did not stop with Christianity. Not at all. Hinduism, Judaism, Buddhism, Metaphysics, native American beliefs were all a part of my studies. Just about the only one that I did not look into seriously was "Islam". Why? Good question.

    No Way! I Did Not Want to Meet Him!
    I did not want to meet this 'Moslem' man. No way! My father insisted that I meet him and reassured me that he was a very nice person. This was too much for me. Especially since the evangelists that we used to travel around with all hated Muslims and Islam very much. They even said things that were not true to make people afraid of Islam. So, why would I want anything to do with these people?

    Idea - "Change Him To Christian"
    Then an idea came to me, "We can change this man to Christian." So, I gave in and agreed to the meeting. But on my terms.

    Met Him With A Bible, Cross and Cap with "Jesus Is Lord!" on it.
    I agreed to meet him on a Sunday after church so we would be all prayed up and in good standing with the Lord. I would be carrying my Bible under my arm as usual. I would have my big shiny cross dangling and I would have on my cap which says: "Jesus is Lord" right across the front. My wife and two young daughters came along and we were ready for our first encounter with the 'Moslems.'

    Where Is He?
    When I came into the shop and asked my father where the 'Moslem' was, he pointed and said: "He's right over there."
    I was confused. That couldn't be the Moslem. No way.

    Turban & Beard?
    I'm looking for a huge man with flowing robes, a big turban on his head, a beard half way down his shirt and eyebrows that go all the way across his forehead with a sword or a bomb under his coat.

    No Turban - No Beard - [No Hair at All!]
    This man had no beard. In fact, he didn't even have any hair on his head at all. He was nearly bald. Best of all, he was very pleasant with a warm welcome and handshake. This didn't make sense. I thought they are terrorists and bombers. What is this all about?

    He Needs Jesus
    Never mind. I'll get right to work on this guy. He needs to be 'saved' in the 'Name of Jesus' and me and the Lord are going to do it.

    Introduction & Interrogation
    After a quick introduction, I asked him:

    "Do you believe in God?"
    He said:
    "Yes." - (Good!)

    Then I said:
    "Do you believe in Adam and Eve?"
    He said:
    "Yes." - (Very Good!)

    I said: "What about Abraham? You believe in him and how he tried to sacrifice his son for God?"
    He said:
    "Yes." - (Even better!)

    Then I asked:
    "What about Moses?"
    "Ten Commandments?"
    "Parting the Red Sea?"
    Again he said:
    "Yes." - (Better still!)

    Then:
    "What about the other prophets, David, Solomon and John the Baptist?"
    He said:
    "Yes." - (Great!)

    I asked:
    "Do you believe in the Bible?"
    Again, he said:
    "Yes." - (OK!)

    So, now it was time for the big question:
    "Do you believe in Jesus? That he was the Messiah (Christ) of God?"
    Again the said:
    "Yes." - (Fantastic!)

    Well now - "This was going to be easier than I had thought."
    He was just about ready to be baptized only he didn't know it.
    And I was just the one to do it, too.

    Shocking Knowledge - Muslims Believe in the Bible?
    One day in the Spring of 1991, I came to know that the Muslims believed in the Bible. I was shocked. How could this be? But that's not all, they believe in Jesus as:

    * A true messenger of God;
    * Prophet of God;
    * Miracle birth without human intervention;
    * He was the 'Christ' or Messiah as predicted in the Bible;
    * He is with God now and most important;
    * He will be coming back in the Last Days to lead the believers against the 'Antichrist.'

    After "winning souls to the Lord for Jesus" day after day, this would be a big achievement for me, to catch one of these 'Moslems' and 'convert' him to Christianity.

    Cup of Tea - Discuss Beliefs
    I asked him if he liked tea and he said he did. So off we went to a little shop in the mall to sit and talk about my favorite subject: Beliefs. While we sat in that little coffee shop for hours talking (I did most of the talking) I came to know that he was very nice, quiet and even a bit shy. He listened attentively to every word that I had to say and did not interrupt even one time. I liked this man's way and thought that he had definite potential to become a good Christian. - Little did I know the course of events about to unravel in front of my eyes.

    Agreed to Do Business
    First of all, I agreed with my father that we should do business with this man and even encouraged the idea of him traveling along with me on my business trips across the northern part of Texas. Day after day we would ride together and discuss various issues pertaining to different beliefs that people have. And along the way, I could of course interject some of my favorite radio programs of worship and praise to help bring the message to this poor individual. We talked about the concept of God; the meaning of life; the purpose of creation; the prophets and their mission and how God reveals His Will to mankind. We also shared a lot of personal experiences and ideas as well.
    for full story please visit http://sheikyusuf.com/
     
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  15. KalvinB

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    But they reject the crucifixion and that he is God. If Christians are fooled into thinking the Christ of Islam is the Christ of the Bible then that's just sad. Stories like that are just another example of people who don't know how to ask the right questions.
     
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    I downloaded the program. Quite interesting to get a view from someone like that, but I had the idea that in some parts he made it appear that he was unbiased, while I felt he wasn't quite that. Still, it was very nice to see.
     
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  17. ash1

    ash1 Active Member

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    what are glenn becks ratings like? is he big in the US? in canada ppl dont like him much and prefer john stewart..
     
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  18. Blogmaster

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    #18
    John Stewart is a comedian.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    counter to wolf blitzer and lou dobbs?
     
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  20. MattKNC

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    Yes, they are two that come to mind. Overall, I believe CNN has lost a bit of its edginess over the years; credit Fox News with trumping them.
     
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