Any danger in software for link building?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by coakleylincoln, Dec 2, 2012.

  1. MarkTheUser

    MarkTheUser Member

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    #21
    Some users say that software tools are good way to work link building. Im asking a question, why 80% (maybe more) of information resources for link building say that manual links are the proper way instead using tools? Is that a lie?
     
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  2. Maximlis

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    #22
    I think, manual submission is best option.
     
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  3. neeshu

    neeshu Well-Known Member

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    #23
    yes you can try a software and end up getting banned then you can later may be try manual work
     
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  4. immembership

    immembership Peon

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    #24
    Again another simple answer. The majority of people who say don't use, either haven't tried it or have abused it, or run an SEO business in some shape (a lot of people on forums do you know ;)) Also in terms of automation and Internet Marketing, the guys who don't automate things are the guys who don't make money!

    I can't get over how many delusional people there are on these forums. The amount who say do Manual Submissions hands down! The vast majority of these people are just relaying the same information they have been fed on another thread somewhere and take it as gospel! I highly doubt any one of these people has even tried a piece of software.

    Have 2 domains? Try both, see what works for you. Don't be part of that 95% who fail online!
     
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  5. immembership

    immembership Peon

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    #25
    Yes you will end up getting banned, if you abuse it!

    I have a challenge, to any of who Manual guys out there. We both buy a domain, very similar in terms of name, and both try to rank it for the same words. I automated, you manual. It can be a long term test too, so results are not just a hit and miss!

    Anyone willing to be proved wrong and save them some time?
     
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  6. coakleylincoln

    coakleylincoln Greenhorn

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    #26
    Hi folks... I'm back. I've been using manual link building for the past 3 months and also recently got such a good results. I have my site in second page and some keywords in first page. Now let the current argument go and tell me about how that s/w works? Because i also don't know how to use?
     
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  7. immembership

    immembership Peon

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    #27
    Have you checked out marketing1stop.co.uk - do before you buy anything online. Let me know what software you are to try and I can help you use it correctly :)
     
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  8. indyonline

    indyonline Prominent Member

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    #28
    Get real n00bie, you really think I haven't tried them all??? and every method...? I been doing this for a while.........
    If you don't agree, I dont give a shit. Software link building is not good. If you really read my post you will see that you said the same thing as me dumb ass.... "Spammy links will be of no benefit and could well harm your site." and like I said, social bookmarking, directory submissions and article submissions are spammy links like I said and you said so wtf is your problem? Google is penalizing people for thiese methods so no need to "back it up".... go do some reading and see for yourself....
    SMFH.....
     
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  9. indyonline

    indyonline Prominent Member

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    #29
    Manual is the proper way. There is a reason "80%" as you said, say that, because it is true.


    Wrong and wrong again. I HAVE tried them all (years ago), have NOT ran an SEO company, and I do make good ass money not using automated link building tactics...
    So you are wrong in your statement about people not making money because they don't automate shit. ask anybody in this forum and most will agree, software is not good and many people have felt the consequences for using them. Look around and see all the people bitching about it.

    Let me guess, thats your site.... that explains a lot...

    Who would use an SEO services from a site with no rankings or PR...? Obviously they suck...
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    Really I see no need to explain, everybody knows because of Googles own words and recent updates..... Wasted my time here....
    all these low PR, garbage links these software's build will do you NO good at all.

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    everyone remember this guy because when he gets enough post to post in the BST he will probably be selling SEO services and who wants to buy services from somebody who is using software...? NOT ME...
     
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  10. wtg

    wtg Well-Known Member

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    #30
    Can you show me the letter google sent you stating they dont like using softwares ? Haha So your Google agent (Who send the letter) tells you to "build links" but dont do it automatically. Building links yourself is cheating at the first place and unethical and Violates Google webmasters guidelines means Anyone Building links "manually" should be penalized as well..

    let me paste it here..

    http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=66356

    So basically everyone is evil and everyone wants their site to be ranked high,.. its just that few of them are Smart evils who automate things and wants their tasks to do better things :) That's why washing machines were built right ? to autommate the time and efforts in washing your cloths yourself ....

    Now a vast mazority of guys does not that the automation part correctly and fell into bad practices that's another story ;) If you know what i Mean

    Have fun :)
     
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  11. indyonline

    indyonline Prominent Member

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    #31
    I'm sure he don't have one but would he really need too...? I mean really.... It's kinda common sense and goes without saying.
    Yes, you are just FN hilarious.... [/sarcasm]
     
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  12. immembership

    immembership Peon

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    #32
    Sorry, I am a noob because I am new to this forum. Such a naive comment from a naive man! I never said the same thing as you, re-read again 'dumb ass'. I honestly believe you have not tried them all, or if you have used them you used them incorrectly. Such an expert.

    And also, marketing1stop.co.uk is not my site, and is not an 'SEO service'. Again look properly next time!

    Yes a lot of people 'bitch' about it because they can't get off their high horse when they have posted thousands of links a day and wonder why google has penalized them.

    Answers simple.

    Are you smart? If yes, choose automation, trial and error until you know what works best!

    No?

    Believe what all these 'experts' say and waste time and money on manual link building...and what links would you build? None?
     
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  13. wtg

    wtg Well-Known Member

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    #33
    come on guys... Nothing to fight here.you both are right in your place.. and none of you have anything to prove either , even if you do have no one will believe.. its IM it works that way.,
    Indyonline : you tried every method but unable to get anything to work means something was there which you missed or didnt had patience to wait for the results. You wont accept it that's Fine and you dont like these softwares as they didnt worked out for you.. Fine they dont work all the time (Most of them) but what if a 147$ a month investment brings you couple hundred bucks every month and giving you enough time to do your other tasks as well, is that wrong ? Or where i see its not working.

    immembership is right as well , if used correctly and not abusing those tools they do work. A knife is made to cut fruits in pieces, if someone uses that to cut humans,it does not mean the knife is evil. its the user who did the crap.


    and guys " the conclusion here is :

    Do things yourself first.. Manually .. When you learn what works and what made you rank ..go ahead and buy softwares to automatate it.. IF you cannot rank anything yourself manually , no software will ever let you rank.. Spamming (means without knowing what you are doing) works but just for moments...after that you are at your own abusing softwares that it didnt worked.

    Again : Do it yourself first
     
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  14. immembership

    immembership Peon

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    #34
    Very well put! I hope people pay attention! Learn, Try, Try and Try again until you know what works. And then try once more! if you can then automate the same process you are doing, then check out the software available to you and give it a go
     
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  15. indyonline

    indyonline Prominent Member

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    wtg Well-Known Member

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    indyonline Prominent Member

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    #37
    affiliate links in signatures are aloud you genius.... learn the rules before you try to call somebody out and make yourself look stupid.... nice try though....
    You were doing the same thing hypocrite...


    WTF is that suppose to mean...? Sorry, I don't speak broken English so I don't understand...
     
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  18. Cheeth

    Cheeth Greenhorn

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    #38
    A lot of site are now wising up to automated software, often these kind are tools are over abused and used to just spam the internet with absolute rubbish for the sake of a link. When a site accepts to much of this rubbish they can be classed as link farms in googles eyes, one this happens the sites authority decreases significantly. Webmasters know this so its in their best interest to prevent this kind content creation garbish on their site. Since automated software can leave a footprint its easy way to spot automated software in comparison to the manual way. A red flag is signalled as soon as ten new pages pop up in the matter of minutes, so a good webmaster would act to remove this as soon as possible. The stick rate of automated submissions is much lower than if you were to do it manually.
     
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  19. VideoWhisper.com

    VideoWhisper.com Well-Known Member

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    #39
    Regular submission is effective in high volume.
    Manual submission is good if other do it for you (viral content or cheap advertisers you can hire in bulk).
    If you do it yourself, you're probably wasting a lot of time that could be used for more effective activity like content creation, link exchange with similar quality sites, hiring advertising services.
     
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  20. initzero

    initzero Active Member

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    #40
    hi mate, just wondering, why avoid blog commenting?
     
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