How can i know if a site is in sandbox?

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  1. #1
    Strange thing for this site that it's not apearing in top100 results even if it has many inbound link with the 2 keywords what could be the cause (those 2 keywords have like 120 000 results when you search so poor competition)

    And olso how can i find if a site is in sandbox or not ?

    http://www.flexicose-usa.com/
    Syn-flex
    Synflex


    Thanks
     
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  2. terryuk

    terryuk Notable Member

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    How old is the website?
     
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    First you turn off your monitor - then the lights - start waving around a small twig --

    If you reach the wall with the twig before tripping over something and breaking your neck - you are out of the sandbox... Start building out your link profile and you rankings will magically appear :D

    Sorry...felt like being silly ... the method probably works though...
     
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    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    thegypsy nice one :)

    Yep i see now the results apear :) strange how i complain here things to start moving :)

    Site isn't mine so don't know how old is :)

    Anyway can you please me how can i find that a site is in sandbox or not ?

    Thanks
     
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  6. thegypsy

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    Sorry but I am not a fan of Sandboxes, -30 penalties, mystery data pushes nor the Cult of PR...

    Usually the answer lies within the link profile as to why a site is underperforming on a given term.

    Indexation is another issue. Is the site indexed fully (mostly)?
    Does it rank for any terms? (check search referrers via analytics)

    It may not be a sandbox but merely mid stream in the process and more needs to be done to get on track… many factors together can have an appearance of a ‘sandbox’ effect but have separate issues that need to be identified and worked on.
     
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    The sandbox per se doesn't exist, but a group of Google filters that act together can give the impression of a sandbox (Matt Cutts who works for Google effectively said this, I'm not quoting him exactly though).

    Knowing a site is sandboxed isn't always obvious, since it could be lack of links, poor on-page SEO or plain bad content that's holding it back. But if you're pretty sure you have the required links, decent content and an SEO friendly site - if you're not in, say, the first 20 pages of results for your chosen phrase(s), you're probably waiting for the sandbox effect to wear off.

    In my experience, it takes 12 months to rank freely, and less popular search phrases don't trigger the effect, ymmv.
     
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  8. thegypsy

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    Holy Semantics BatMan ( and I don't mean Latent )

    Ye went from

    To


    Hmm.. anyways, follow the standard SEO practices and all will be fine. Pretend there is no SB or whatever and you shall rise

    I started my most recent site ( took the SEO out of my business development portfolio) was put online back in Sept.

    It is ranking on it's targeted terms and we are moving on to new ones :0)


    I get paid to do this (SEO) for a living, if I couldn't do better then 'standard' ranking and progression, there would be no need to pay me
     
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    @gypsy,

    Like I said, it's a collection of filters that create what is commonly known as the sandbox effect, as opposed to Google setting out to specifically engineer a sandbox for new sites.
     
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    Perform a site search on Google:
    site:yoursite.com

    If it displays results, your site is not sandboxed. If it doesn't, perform another search:
    site:yoursite.com -asdf -asdf -asdf -fdsa -sadf -fdas -asdf -fdas -fasd -asdf -asdf -asdf -fdsa

    That'll show your site if it doesn't show up for the regular site search. If it comes up using the search above, it's probably sandboxed.

    Regards,
    Nithanth
     
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    Being cheeky.. things are too cloudy in SEO..it either is or it isn't I am in the isn't camp.. :D
     
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    Check the following things to see if your site may be sandboxed,

    * Search for site:yourdmain.com on Google. Is your site well indexed with no supplemental results?
    * Search for your keywords in MSN and Yahoo. Are you well ranked for your main keywords in either of these search engines?
    * Search Google for allinanchor:yourkeyword and allintitle:yourkeyword. Is your site showing up in these searches?

    If you answer yes to these questions and your site still isn’t showing in Google then it could well be the case that your suffering from the sandbox penalty.
     
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