Any danger in software for link building?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by coakleylincoln, Dec 2, 2012.

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    Is it spammy? Or i better do it manually myself?
     
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  2. dhamaniasad

    dhamaniasad Member

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    All link building software are spammy. I receive around 5 spam comments on my website with links daily
     
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    cutelohan Peon

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    Yes of course. Use manual link building methods only.
     
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  4. coakleylincoln

    coakleylincoln Greenhorn

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    Thanks for sharing you opinion with me:)
     
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  5. dhamaniasad

    dhamaniasad Member

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    Welcome. Btw if you want to build some genuine links you can exchange links with people on this forum. Most of them would be willing to. Or you could use fiverr.com, but be sure the person isn't providing links using some bot, because Google could penalize you for it.
     
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    imranamen6 Active Member

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    Do not use software to build links or your site will get into Google radar and may also get a penalty for doing so.
     
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    You'd be severely penalized by Google if you use any bot to link your site.. try to build up links manually and be careful.. Avoid Blog Commenting, Start Guest Posting and Be Active on Social Media (FB, Twitter, Pinterest, Stumbleupon and Reddit).
     
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    manual link build prefers because its work natural way
     
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  9. wtg

    wtg Well-Known Member

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    Guys stop posting crap if you have no idea what you are talking about..... Simply because you used a software google or anyone else of that matter is not gonna penalize you..

    If you use a SEO software for good purpose here is how..

    A normal healthy guy (Which swears to use ONLY manual link buildings) will
    1. signup to 10 or so web2.0 sites
    2. verify each email address
    3. put the title
    4. fill the content
    5. put some tags
    6. hit submit
    7. copy and save the link in his excel sheet
    next day, He will -

    1. signup to around 20 social book mark sites
    2. Post each link he created on day 1 (10 links) to each of them
    3. put a title
    4. put description
    5. submit
    6. save the link

    again
    1. he will signup for RSS sites and submit all those links to Ping sites.

    and repeats the same process for directory sites and blah blah......which takes complete a week and boring work

    Now if another normal healthy but a bit wise guy automates this process.. Simply the above series of tasks is automated, what's wrong in it ?
    how come you can even distinguish which link is created by a bot and which is by a human ? (Let's not talk about the links created by spammers who just know how to spam the world but talks about a serious marketer ) ..if you really wanna give it a go mention it and I wil put few exampls links. let me know which is by my bots and which is by a VA.

    automation is not wrong and you should better change the way you think... SEO softwares are not all the time so called evil and gets you in trouble.. instead use automation and utilize your time for creating more good things on the web and making some more cash out of it....

    people should use at least use some of their brain which they probably lost in forum knowledge which makes them believe everything they see written on sites with black background..

    Sorry for writing this rant. maybe i am just frustrated or maybe i need some sleep. Anyway get back to your business guys and have fun
     
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    wtg Well-Known Member

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    natural way ?? Seriously ? who said LOL .. Man Any link you build yourself is NOT natural.... Natural links are the one which people make for your site.. write good content and people will link to you that theory from Google ... Maybe time to re-read the seo book ?
     
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  11. bluebenz

    bluebenz Well-Known Member

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    link exchange wether manual or using software are danger now.
    you request link exchange today but the next day you ask to remove it from the site you exchanged.

    I receive a lot of email want their website removed from my link list..
     
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    A smart man, yes you are totally right :)
    The key with seo tools and automation is the way you use it - Dont Abuse It!

    Most people are not very smart with these tools and turn it into a spam machine,
    But the purpose is to do a smart job with it so that you can focus on something else to help you increase your
    overall productivity.

    WTG your rant is justified but people wont necessarily listen to it - so Just make more money for yourself instead
    and enjoy your life :)
     
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  13. Cheeth

    Cheeth Greenhorn

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    The advantage of using pure manual link building is that you are able to put links on sites that software link building packages cannot. Ultimately this means that your links will be separated from the highly spammy link farms that google will inevitably notice especially with their new disavow tool. I would definitely go manual if you want your website to be more future proof.
     
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    Mkcoy Well-Known Member

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    OP asked "Any danger in software for link building?"

    There is no straight yes or no answer to this question.
    What you are stating by this question is that building too many links too quick in a software can have a negative effect on your SEO right?

    There is some software out there that can do things pretty much the same way and at the same speed as a human would do.
    Some people even use software to create sites for other people in an automated step. Thus saving time and labour.

    What makes you think that software is used for building "quick" links only? :)
    The Sick Web 2.0 Robot is a perfect example of this. With that you can build links at any speed either full manual or semi-automatic mode.

    Hope this helps.
     
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  15. immembership

    immembership Peon

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    To put it simply no! No there is no danger. 2 very simple reasons!

    1) If Google was to penalize you for having too many backlinks, the would have to penalize every site there is! There is no way Google can determine a automated link or a manual link. The process which you or the 'bot' has to go through is the same. Now if you post thousands of links, then Google could see this as 'spam' and therefore punish your sites rankings. However for Google to recognize a 'link' it needs to be indexed. This as I'm sure you know doesn't happen at once. Regardless if you made thousands of links at once, if they are not indexed you have no benefit and Google is unaware of them. What you need to do, like a poster said above, is set up your links to be built as you would build them. As in if you could build 20 links a day, have it done automatically for you! Rapidly start having indexed links, your asking for trouble!

    Also, in reference to another post above, many automated sites now allow you to post on sites that you think you can't post on manually, such as web 2.0 sites. All you need to do in most circumstances is fill the information in once and it will do the rest for you in future posts.

    2) The one you always need to come back to. If it could be that easy to harm a competitors site, why aren't all top sites spamming each other? Do you not think Google have thought about this.

    Automated software, not just for link building, is a must if you want to be successful online. Try marketing1stop.co.uk to save yourself a few $$$

    Remember, enjoy!
     
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  16. coakleylincoln

    coakleylincoln Greenhorn

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    Hi friends
    First of all i oblige to thank you all.
    Then somebody tells link building software is good and at the same time somebody tells it is gonna be penalized my site that will be done by google.
    I trust who?
    Please let me know. If i take that software, is there a huge lost in future or at spot?
     
    coakleylincoln, Dec 3, 2012 IP
  17. immembership

    immembership Peon

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    Coakleylincoln, to put it simply like I have in another thread!

    The people who tell you not to use automation, and do everything manual, are those who have been stupid when using the tools, built thousands of backlinks a day and wonder why they have been penalized by Google, or they are an SEO company looking to obtain your business.

    The ones who use automated tools, and do so correctly, are not having to waste their time on link building, and focusing on the things that are important in any business - sales!!

    Take from it what you will, to really be successful online (not just SEO) you need automation. Without it you simply don't have enough time!

    I can show you sites I have ranked from tools such as Senuke, SEO Pressor if you would like to PM me :)
     
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  18. indyonline

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    Actually, lol, you need to "change the way you think"....
    No matter what you say, these link building software's are not good. For one, and most important than all, the links they build are garbage and Google is penalizing people for using them. Social bookmarking, directory submissions, article submissions, forum profile back links.... Google wants natural links and they are forcing people to comply....
    Building links with the same info is not good. even if you spin or use many keywords, there are going to be many links that look the same and Google is penalizing people big time for this.
    Google is smart, and one could almost guarantee all these software's out there Google has probably purchased themselves to get updates of the list of sites being used by them. I can not guarantee that but if I was Google, I would... bottom line, they know about these software's and if anybody thinks they don't do what they can to work against them, they are sadly mistaken.
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    True
    If you believe using link building software is ok, maybe it is time for YOU to read that "SEO-book".... JS...
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    OP, if you are going to use software, one can almost guarantee you will fail. Don't be like the thousands of people here complaining because they used them or built links similar to the type of links the software's build, and are failing in their web careers or have been penalized by search engines. I highly recommend you do not use them.
    While WTG may have a point that most likely Google can not determine how the links are submitted, the kind of links they build will get you penalized. Even just doing them manually, the methods mentioned above, you could get penalized for building that type of links that Google considers spammy/un-natural.
     
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    You are crazy, what you just said has no real backup other than you clearly have no real experience in using software or you run or work for an SEO company who loves to drain their clients of their money for something they could do just as well, and far cheaper automated.

    If what your saying is true, and Google are penalizing sites with these types of backlinks, even if created manually, then pretty much every site on the net is going to get hit hard! Your right in that some links do not have as much importance as they use to, you just need to think outside the box and make your backlinks stand out from the crowed. That's where the idea of 'Link Wheels' were generated. Spammy links will be of no benefit and could well harm your site.

    I simply use automated software to do things correctly, the same as anyone would manually, but save my self time and money in the process. I have sites ranked on page one from manual and automated submissions. Same method, same results yet the one saved me hours of work, and money in the process (i had to outsource it to try it, I wasn't going to waste my time manually building links). Which one would you choose?

    I'm not going to force people on what to do, but I would say try both on 2 different sites and see what results you get! Don't let what other people say suede you! Learning yourself is much better experience, and you never know you might learn to save yourself some time and $$$!
     
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  20. jackkavin

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    yes of course google do not like taking a help for any software doing a link building google always this activities spamming link building i recommend you always do a link building is manual nice job keep it up
     
    jackkavin, Dec 3, 2012 IP