Using Dreamweaver what is the best way to center a logo and navigation bar.

Discussion in 'HTML & Website Design' started by wheelstb, Nov 19, 2012.

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    I've completely new to Dreamweaver and I have difficulty typing so I work in design view. I want to know what is the best way to center both a logo and a navigation bar? The navigation bar will be below the logo. Thank you very much in advance.
     
    wheelstb, Nov 19, 2012 IP
  2. deathshadow

    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    The proper answer is don' use design view and take the time to learn HTML and CSS -- since the code output by design view is useless rubbish, and 'design view' like EVERY other WYSIWYG are conceptually flawed as the web is supposed to be dynamic, fluid and device neutral; which is why designing a fixed layout at the magical resolution you happen to be running or even just one 'fixed' resolution that gets 'most' existing targets is a broken, nonsensical way of building websites.

    TYPICALLY the best way to have everything in a page fit a width and center off that width -- even with a range of widths per min/max-width (semi-fluid layout, the sanest of approachs) is to add a containing DIV, set the width once on that, and center just that with margin:0 auto; -- good luck doing that with the 'design view'... a sleazy crutch that tricks people into THINKING they can build websites.

    Which of course is why, well... see my signature.

    Of course, you'll always have the people who go "wah, wah, wah, I don't wanna learn" like a kindergartener - which when it comes to HTML and CSS that pretty much means you don't actually want a website.
     
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    I go one step further than deathshadow. The best way is to close Dreamweaver, go into control panel and uninstall Dreamweaver, open a text editor, then see deathshadow's second paragraph.
     
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    wheelstb Active Member

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    Like I said in the opening of my post. I have great difficulty typing. I use speech recognition to do all of my standard typing. Obviously, that will not work with web design. So I need to use Dreamweaver.I can appreciate the fact that you both took the opportunity to vet about what is bothering you. Can someone at least provide some kind of answer to my question?
     
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    sorry to say but to many code in navbar, you cant done this on design view :( ( at least for me, i cant done this in design view)
     
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    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    Is that a legitimate disability/impairment, or just "I don't want to learn to type"? Either way you might be 'outta luck' if you are serious about having a REAL website -- or at least in terms of doing it properly. Anything you make using any form of WYSIWYG/design view is going to be useless inaccessible rubbish.
     
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    wheelstb Active Member

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    No, It's a real disability, cerebral palsy from birth. Thanks for the help. I guess?
     
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    Wheel, as Deathshadow said, you might be out of luck. You wouldn't try out for a pro football team, would you? Even if there were some way you could sort of fake it? Heavy people don't try to become jockeys, short people don't try to become basketball players and people with CP shouldn't try to do something that almost requires the ability to learn to type well (or at least fast).

    If you're not using Dreamweaver in text mode, you aren't creating web pages that anyone would want to look at. (Not just the look, but inconsistent response, slow load times, slow execution times, etc.) And if you are using it in text mode. use a plain old text editor. It'll need FAR fewer resources, so your computer will run faster.

    But maybe the hardware design end of computers is more suited to you. (A late friend of mine, who had CP pretty severely, designed RF hardware for a living.) Or maybe some totally unrelated field. Why try to do something you're physically not designed to? I have a bad back, so I wouldn't try to learn weight-lifting. And if I need something lifted or moved, I ask someone to do it for me, either a friend or someone I pay. (I'm moving in a couple of months, and I'll be paying people to put my furniture into a POD since I can't do it without hurting a lot.)
     
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    I see your point. I was already thinking along those lines before I began the project. But when people talk about a quality website it is a little bit ambiguous. In many cases, a good website is one that does exactly what the business owner wants it to do. In my case that is simply to show what kind of services they offer to clients or potential clients. In order to do this effectively you do not have to have a flashy website or loads of interactivity.I'm not really capable of designing an extremely interactive site but, I am capable of coming up with exactly what these individuals are looking for. Besides trying to build a website is something I was always interested in. I may reevaluate my position after I finish this project but, I will be finishing this project.
     
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    wheelstb Active Member

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    I've been thinking about what we've been talking about in this thread. I think it would be extremely difficult and impractical for me to be a full-time web designer. I think it would be okay for me to do it as sort of a hobby, even though I may not be able to work with the most optimal tools. I think of it like this, millions of people golf every year, most of them are terrible, they have no chance of doing it professionally or even being able to make par on a consistent basis. In spite of all of this they continue to play.
     
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    No one (relatively) sees them golfing.
     
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    Try to do different things in dreamweaver and while you are doing this you can get the ideas about how you can do that thing more efficiently.
     
    wenren, Dec 2, 2012 IP