Will the right wing learn to compromise when President Obama is reelected?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Bushranger, Nov 5, 2012.

  1. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #21
    I like reading the comments in DP P&R as it is a window into the crazy and fantasy world of the extremist positions that dominate the GOP and express the current perspectives of Republicans:

    They may not realize it but the following just occurred:

    1. Obama won the election
    2. Obama won the popular vote
    3. Obama won the electoral vote
    4. The Dems picked up a bit in the Senate and the House. The GOP still has a significant House Majority
    5. The Dems have a Senate majority but it's effectiveness is hindered by a political tendency to require Super majority votes to pass Senate votes. Essentially that means that say 58 senators for something and 42 Senators vote against it, and the votes of the 42 will block the Senate.
    6. The GOP House Majority is buttressed by significant gerrymandering and creation of districts that essentially are "safe". They represent a voting majority in a geographical area, that is either dominant GOP or dominant Dem. The Reps really don't have to respond to the needs of the Country but can respond only to the needs of a philosophy. There are examples of this for both Dem and GOP house seats, but there are currently more of them from GOP districts.

    Most amazingly, within the 435 House seats, less than 100 are considered "up for play" in a district where there is a mix of republicans and democrats. The House has become the home base of polarized politics within the US.

    Boehner, comments represented several things:

    1. he spoke of compromise
    2. his outline proposal was virtually precisely the economics/tax deal that Romney/Ryan proposed. No tax increases on the wealthy; entirely un articulated efforts to streamline the tax code, and of course cuts.

    Maybe Bohner missed the results of the General Election. That proposal lost in the popular vote.

    In prior efforts the Dems had a lot of cuts on the table. They wanted to see tax rates return to the rates existent in 2000 on the highest incomes. The GOP has adamantly blocked that every inch of the way. Bohner's comments showed NO CHANGE in the GOP commentary.

    Of course who knows if Bohner really represents the TeaParty oriented members of Congress. They had previously left him out on his own and to dry in previous negotiations.

    Bohner's comments had a "nice tone" though about compromise. We'll see.

    In the meantime though, the fantasy concepts of the Extreme Right Wing continue. One(or more) of the Right Wing commentators here called Obama racist.

    1. A huge majority of African Americans voted for Obama
    2. A huge majority of Asians voted for Obama
    3. A huge majority of Hispanics voted for Obama.

    Meanwhile out in the big world of Right Wing Pundits one of the national commentators from the extreme right wing criticized Romney and referenced some of their great candidates that didn't get through the GOP primariies, Herman Caine in particular. Caine was a known serial repeat abuser of women.
    4. A significant majority of women voted for Obama.

    I enjoy reading the fantasy commentary of the Right Wing. Its amusing if not educational.
     
    earlpearl, Nov 8, 2012 IP
  2. grpaul

    grpaul Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Funny that you bring up that name, because I always reference Bill Clinton when talking about this. A guy that is praised by the Libs.

    Libs love talking out of both sides of their mouths.
     
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  3. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #23
    Earl, you just nailed the reason the markets sold off 300 pts yesterday. You, the President, and Harry Reid all feel like you got a mandate. Meanwhile, Americans sent the Republican super majority, tea party candidates included, back to do what they were elected to do. Put a check on the President's policies.

    Basically, America voted for the status quo in hopes the President would find a way to compromise with a Republican congress, something the President has proven he is completely incapable of doing. Hell, he wouldn't even compromise with his own bi-partisan commission on the debt(Simpson Bowles), something House Republicans can get behind.

    I'm sure that, as our economy tanks from failed leadership, you and the media can explain to everyone why it is all the fault of Republicans in congress. You think that will make anyone feel better?
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Clinton is a great example. After taking a midterm spanking similar to Obama's, he compromised. Obama retrenched. The contrast in approaches and corresponding results are striking, don't you think?
     
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  5. boblord666

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    #25
    Yep, highly amusing - stunningly stupid financial theories, insane philosophies on life the universe and everything, yelling to get their point across, failure to listen, personal insults - they have all the traits of Australian far right loopies but the US increases it fivefold. Doesn't matter - Four More Years!
     
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  6. grpaul

    grpaul Well-Known Member

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    #26
    People were doing that to you all the way in Australia? Did you tell them to stop wasting their breathe and walk away?
     
    grpaul, Nov 8, 2012 IP
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    grpaul Well-Known Member

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    #27
    Absolutely.

    The Dems think they are experts in pointing out the faults of the Republicans, while trying to ignore their own.


     
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2012
    grpaul, Nov 9, 2012 IP