Does Obama deserve a second term as President ?

Obamafan,

What a great picture, it gave me one hell of a laugh - thanks. I think it is one of the best joke pics I have ever seen.

Hey Obamie, just between you and me. I don`t give a crap who the American voters elect as President, they have exceeded the imagination capacity of the human brain with their past choices. How about Donal Duck ?

Now to our little secret - How do you think I would get many replies to my political threads if I did`nt wind you Republican`s up ? The Democrat`s would not bother to post because they are on a winning track, so you Rep`s get the short straw.

I know I have said that Romney has done nothing, well he `aint really, gone to Church and messed around in business like thousands more have. But then Obama never did anything either before he became President. He popped up from the dark depths of Illinois as if from nowhere like some Will-o-the-Wisp.

Rumor has it that birds do not fly over Illinois because there is nothing there to crap on.

 

Well, originally I thought you were someone who just learned how to use a dictionary and thought you could impress. Then I pegged you as another Dem troll. But from your reply above it just seems that you are lonely.

Oops, you're not a Democrat, you're a Liberal because you believe that anyone that disagrees with you MUST be Republican. Independents like me are incomprehensible to you, right?

 

AFFIRMATIVE Corwin, extremely Liberal and full marks for your exceptional powers of observation and analytical expertise, bang on the button - anybody who does disagree with me is obviously wrong or at the best misguided.

Lonely Corwin ? Not a bit, I have a BIG Rottweiler that simply adores me and I almost forgot - a lovely wife and Father Christmas who visits me once every year.

Well Corwin you must admit that my magnetic personality, subject selectivity, knowledge and artistic linguistic qualities displayed in my posts is rapidly generating a rather embarrassing fan club at an alarming rate. I never intended to achieve such accolades and unexpected fame, but alas, if I must receive such distinguished and unexpected recognition then I have to accept it with pride.

 

Unbelievable, coming from a guy who says he is a scientist - engineer - IT specialists - Jury ! Wake up man, your still in the ghetto !

Long Live the NI**ERS !

 

Anyone see Obama fail again last night in the debate? ;-)

 

Personally, I thought Obama edged Romney out a bit last night, though not by much. What did disturb me was CNNs handling of the whole affair.

 

LOL ! What a pile man ? Coin with same both sides - a horse with blinders !

-shakes head-

 

Hmm, interesting - why do you think that?

 

C'mon Junior... both hands on the keyboard please.

 

A few reasons, most of them rather trivial.

Obama smiles a lot, Romney does not. It is engaging. It makes Romney come off as angrier, and Obama come off as more elegant.

I thought Romney could have held it together a bit more like Paul Ryan did. Thats not to say that Obama was any better behaved than Romney or even Biden, but I expected Romney to be less overtly confrontational and more above it like Ryan was. My respect for Ryan went through the roof on the Ryan/Biden debate, and conversely, my respect for Biden dropped through the floor.

Romney fell flat or topic switched on one or two questions I thought he should have hit out of the park, though in fairness, he hit a few curveballs like the George Bush and Immigration questions out of the park. I guess I expect perfection.

Lastly, Romney found himself arguing with Candy Crowley a lot because she kept cutting him off, which is why his time was a full 4 minutes behind Obama's for much of the debate. While this is unfair and biased as hell, its a turn off to see a candidate arguing with the moderator.

On substance, I thought Romney kicked ass. Obama was good at providing slick excuses, so if you are into stylishly delivered BS over facts, which many people are, they would call that a draw.

The single thing I found to be more disturbing than anything else was the CNN live polling graph running at the bottom of the screen, based on their selction of "undecided voters" from Ohio. It was only 38 people and, in my opinion, fiercely partisan. During Romney's best moments, they were lukewarm on his performance, while Obama would open with the words, "Let me tell you Candy", and they would be dialing him up. The reason they shut down applause during the debates is to allow people to form their own opinions without the influence of the opinions of the live audience, so putting a live poll at the bottom of the screen, regardless of whether you agree with their opinions or not, runs counter to the very principals by which the debate is created. It was so distracting, I actually missed whole sections of the debate I had to rewatch later.

 

If I may suggest - shorten your sentences and use punctuation to break sentences apart into separate concepts. Use one-stage verbs. Lose some adjectives. For example:

Well Corwin - you must admit, my magnetic personality, subject selectivity, and linguistic qualities rapidly generated a fan club. I never intend to achieve these accolades and unexpected fame - but alas, if I must receive such unexpected recognition, then I accept it with pride.

Notice magnetic personality, subject selectivity, and linguistic qualities builds a pattern of two-word cadence. knowledge and artistic linguistic qualities is a one-word and three-word and broke the cadence/rhythm of your sentence.

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I thought the debate was a tie until Obama flubbed the Libya question. The question is the one on everyone's mind and it was WHO denied the request for increased security for the embassy. It was an important question and Obama ignored it and instead went into a touchy-feely answer of "I know the ambassadors and their families yada yada yada".

 

O'nation - i went to CNN specifically to watch that graph, and came to the same conclusion... Those were not independent voters by any stretch. I made the same observation in a fb discussion where a few of us were discussing the debate as it happened.

I scored the debate as a Romney win, as Obama ran from rather than addressed questions on his record. He was on the ropes the entire time. And what was with all the blinking while he watched Romney? Body language experts say thats a sign someones lying to you... Guess he was mentally preparing his next answer.

After his terrible showing in the first debate, all he had to do to beat the expectations was stay awake and not drool on himself... So by that standard Obama exceeded expectations bigtime. That said, all he could hope to do was slow or hopefully stop the hemmorhage of his campaign. He may have managed to slow it somewhat for now, but with Hillary showing to have more balls than him on Libya i think he's about to join his constituents unemployed status.

 

They did the same thing during the VP debate. Sad that the organization that claims to be not right like Fox, or left like MSNBC, can't put a simple debate to broadcast without applying their filter to what you are seeing. It is an Asch Conformity experiment being run at a national level and its disgusting.

As far as I can tell, Luntz came up with the dial evaluation methodology on Fox, but at least they had the common sense to air the results after the debate, and let the debate content go out unvarnished like it is supposed to be. This is bloody 1984 style programming, and I can't believe more people aren't speaking out about it.

Partisanship aside, I think anyone looking for substance probably scored this as a Romney win. Looking at it through the eyes of an uninformed American watching the event for entertainment value, the takeway was probably that Romney had to be corrected by the moderator so he must be a liar, even though Crowley later acknowledged Romney's point was legitimate and accurate. The rigging of this debate was fault tolerant, with redundancy built in at every level.

That aside, I think Romney should have stayed out of the mud. Looking more presidential than the president would have given him a decisive victory. The way the whole thing played out just felt icky. It was hard to watch. It reminded me of an old video....
[video=youtube;RTOQUnvI3CA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTOQUnvI3CA[/video]

 

Yeah... if you are gonna "fact check a presidential candidate in mid-sentence... it'd be nice to actually be right. Crowley was an embarrassment as a moderator.

For the third debate in a row the Republican got less speaking time by several minutes despite the fact all three times the Democrats pointed out that the candidate talked over the moderator trying to cut them off. Wonder how much more time they'd have lost had they not stood up for themselves. Obama kept looking at the moderator with a "save me" look when Romney was speaking... and she did her best, but notwithstanding any BS coming from MSM, I dont think the public fell for it.

Then again... most of the public was probably watching a TIVO of Honey Boo Boo... so the decision may be decided by idiots.

 

An observation from one of those damned overseas commentators after yesterday's debate.

"To observers though, a leader inexperienced in foreign matters like Romney, guided by neoconservatives with a bad record, at a time when the United States must navigate financial decline, a rising China and Middle East tensions, will more likely prove to be, the sum of all their fears."

Go Obama Go

 

LoL. This is a guy you find credible for advice on American politics? He has less credibility than you do on the subject, and that is really saying something:

/Chuckle. Its like getting advice from your two year old on how to perform open heart surgery on yourself, and you, being the genius you are, actually listen to it.

 

Jimmy Kimmel went out BEFORE THE DEBATE and asks "Who do you think won last nights presidential debate?"

[video=youtube_share;9UrOmhH2PeI]http://youtu.be/9UrOmhH2PeI[/video]

 

Actually finding a commentator outside of the US who actually thinks Romney would be good for the world is impossible.

Loved Mitt's theory that he would tell the Chinese how/what to do - what a laugh. Even the babe Clinton admits "How do you tell your banker what to do." Playing broadcast politics with any Asian nation is a rather large no no and shows the great naivety of the man.

BTW there is no Left in US politics. Democrats are Right, Republicans are Far Right and Tea Party are Lunar Right.

 

That's because outside the US, commentators tend to like whichever candidate would make the USA weaker, which consequently they think would be better for other countries.

It's not a theory - the Chinese ARE manipulating their currency. In case you haven't noticed, modern superpower warfare is fought with economics.

I agree.

 

No, Far Right politics scares the shit out of us. The Gung Ho foreign policy, the rule the world mentality generally leaves us cold. Quite happy for you blokes to indulge in a bit of nation building within the US as I think the US and the World would be better for it. There is a slight chance it may happen under Obama and doesn't look like it might happen under Mitt.