Democrats more patriotic than Republicans

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by earlpearl, Sep 10, 2012.

  1. Gomeza

    Gomeza Well-Known Member

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    #121
    I guess it is safe to say that you don't see the extent to which you are misrepresenting just about every issue we have ever had dialog on. These are your convoluted versions of what you think my opinions are, they are not my opinions. Just as you have demonstrated for us in this very thread, you do not seem capable of simply reading and responding to what is posted. Somehow you find a way to interject your own twisted worldview into the author's words.
     
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  2. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #122
    The reality is that when Obama was elected President unemployment was 6.6%. It wasn't until AFTER he implemented a few trillion dollars in spending that the economy really went into the toilet.
     
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  3. Gomeza

    Gomeza Well-Known Member

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    #123
    Are you still clinging to that indefensible position? . . . . or is this a joke?
     
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  4. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #124
    Gee Gomez, facts suck to a liberal, don't they?

    That's a point I've made many times. Comes down to liberals don't respect other people's time.

    Actually, the Obama "stimulus" all together was around $4 Trillion, not $800 Billion.

    Many of the money earmarked for the programs you cite above were already found to have mysteriously "disappeared" or re-routed. There was corruption in most energy and housing projects.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #125
    That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. To think I tested so well on reading comprehension, even as a small child. Perhaps the alcohol and drugs have had an impact.

    Personally, I'm more than happy to quote your words back to you and let the readers decide if I have misrepresented your views. I was even happy to assume I had misunderstood your words and let you correct my misunderstanding.

    In all of our discussions, you have not exactly gone out of your way to set the record straight. After two pages of posts requesting a clarification on your statement about US support for Israel, the best you could offer was a nuanced qualifier. Pretty weak.

    You seem far more afraid of being wrong than able to back up the idea you are right. You could probably get a job with the Obama admin.
     
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  6. Gomeza

    Gomeza Well-Known Member

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    #126
    Judging by your last post, you are in fact still attempting to adhere to this nonsense. Now comes the time where you should connect the dots for us, as in how did increased spending by the Obama administration (which was in fact substantially less than your claim of "a few trillion dollars") contribute to a rise in unemployment and a deepening of the recession? What are the specifics, where were the jobs lost and what connection did those lost jobs have to the money that was spent?

    It is only fair that you provide this information, you asked me to validate my contention after all, surely you have some "facts" to share with us?

    I'm not holding my breath, the "clown economics" you adhere to are nothing more than a collection of fabricated soundbites and catchphrases with little, if any, basis in fact. If you ever do want to know how ridiculous you sound by re-iterating the same old nonsense over and over again, start HERE . . . you would do well to take the time to read the entire page . . . or you could just continue posting lies and insulting those who disagree with you, . . . it's your choice.
     
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  7. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #127
    According to whom, Corwin: Other than every authoritative source of information, and according to your partner in Extremist Right Wing commentary, O-Nation...who uses the $800 billiion figure extensively with regard to his own posts....you are out on a limb here...or maybe you have some authoritative source from al quaida with which you would like to educate us.
     
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  8. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #128
    Liberals love bandying about the word "extremist", "racist", and "homophobe" in their attempts to bully and silence dissenting opinions. In my opinion, such talk has only two effects.

    1) It waters down the value of the word. If everyone is a racist, nobody is.

    2) It discredits your argument. If your point can't stand on it's own without an attached attempt to marginalize it's detractors, it probably isn't a very good point at all.


    Yours truly,

    Right Wing Extremist.

    Allahu Akbar
     
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  9. Gomeza

    Gomeza Well-Known Member

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    #129
    It boggles the mind. Facts don't seem to matter, spin and accomplished obfuscation can deal with those pesky facts.

    The scariest part is that this type of denial is so prevalent and assuming that most of this is coming from young adults of voting age who seem to believe the internet memes they are so willingly proliferating . . . . some voting decisions will be based on this type of misinformation.
     
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  10. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #130
    I think its scary. The representatives of the Right Wing have now become the tyrannical mind control describers of everything said by everyone.

    Somebody posts his words.

    A rep of the Right Wing GOP takes his specific words and turns them into a representation of right wing thinking.

    The original poster says he didn't say that or mean that.

    the mind control right winger says his new interpretation is correct.

    What gives? has the current GOP and its most ardent supporters become representative of tyrannical mind control, communist abusive governments.

    Now a person can't even say what he means.

    Okay...this is Digital Point--the Web. Not the United States or some other free nation. But the effort to twist a statement and ascribe to it a different point of view is simply representative of the world's most tyrannical governments that abuse human beings.

    Sad day. Sad day.
     
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    #131
    And everyone that has a brain can see the bull you're posting . You're talking about mind control as if it was something real and you abstractise a term to suit your needs . Are you posting for anyone else but Google bot ?

    Speaking about mind control would you like to explain how Barrack Obama got 6 million fake Twitter followers ?
     
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  12. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #132
    Funny stuff. Reminds me of this scene. Apparently what DNC delegates say can be interpreted by the Chairman however he wants.
    [video=youtube;cncbOEoQbOg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncbOEoQbOg[/video]
     
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  13. Gomeza

    Gomeza Well-Known Member

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    #133
    What you have described is something I have experienced on this forum more times than I can count but in fairness, it has been perpetrated by a very small number of people. One individual in particular seems incapable of anything other than obfuscating the words of others when in disagreement.

    But are any of this small group representative of the GOP? In their minds I am sure they think they are but what is the reality? How many of these deep thinkers have any real or tangible association with the political party they act as cheerleaders for?
     
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    #134
    That seems sort of subjective, OP.
     
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    #135
    Allow me to pass you a cry towel. Where is Pladecalvo when you need a shoulder to weep on?

    The comedy and irony of you using the words "deep thinkers" sarcastically in application to others, and more specifically in application to the "one individual" at the center of your angst. Intellectual arrogance from the feeble minded is at once humorous and annoying.

    I lack for the politically correct words to sum it all up.
    [video=youtube;0IfzRf1DtxQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IfzRf1DtxQ[/video]
     
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  16. Gomeza

    Gomeza Well-Known Member

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    #136
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    In an effort to communicate with you at your limited comprehension level, the previous message was written in crayon
     
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    #137
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  18. Corwin

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    #138
    This is the most SIMPLISTIC explanation I've been able to find:

    Why Obama's Deficit Spending Is Making Things Worse

    To quote:
    "In 1986, President Ronald Reagan's Tax Reform Act sought to cut tax rates and pay for the cuts by eliminating loopholes and deductions. This is sound economics and a step in the direction of a flat tax with low rates and no deductions. The problem was that between 1990 and 1993, Presidents George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton gradually raised tax rates but did not restore the deductions. The result was an eight-year game of bait-and-switch in which taxpayers ended up with higher rates and fewer deductions."

    To be fair, it wasn't all President Ronald Reagan. He had a Democratic Congress that was willing to work together. But Reagan's real leadership insured a bi-partisan government, in the same way that President Clinton's leadership working with a Republican Congress insured a bi-partisan government.

    "More recent examples of fiscal deception include President Obama's pledge in 2009 to 'cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office.' In fact, Obama has increased deficits by over $6 trillion and has come nowhere close to his promised target."

    We don't have an unlimited money supply. When we pay more in taxes, we take money out of the private sector, which depresses the private sector. As Obama went on a frenzy of $4 Trillion of deficit spending, that's OUR money, taken from the private sector.

    "Citizens who insist that government stop talking about cuts and start the actual process of cutting spending now have got it right. Fewer resources for government means more resources for the private sector where ideas, invention, technology, innovation, and jobs actually originate."

    There was an economist on CNN last year that said something that stuck with me. He said something like "Government's ability to help the economy is small, but it's ability to damage the economy is tremendous".
     
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    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #139
    I think its scary. The representatives of the Left Wing have now become the tyrannical mind control describers of everything said by everyone.

    Somebody posts his words.

    A rep of the Left Wing takes his specific words and turns them into a representation of left wing thinking.

    The original poster says he didn't say that or mean that.

    the mind control left winger says his new interpretation is correct.

    What gives? has the current Democratic party and its most ardent supporters become representative of tyrannical mind control, communist abusive governments.

    Now a person can't even say what he means.

    Okay...this is Digital Point--the Web. Not the United States or some other free nation. But the effort of the tyrannical left wing to twist a statement and ascribe to it a different point of view is simply representative of the world's most tyrannical governments that abuse human beings.

    Sad day. Sad day.

    His face at 2:26 is priceless. An obvious example of the tyrannical left wing imposing it's will on the masses? "Voting? We don't need no stinking voting!"
     
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  20. Gomeza

    Gomeza Well-Known Member

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    #140
    You would be much better off if you simply admitted that you are out of your depth and do not understand any of the things you are attempting to argue. The link you provided is to a post from what is essentially a multiple author opinion blog which is unfortunately rife with a number of fundamental errors, many of which you seem to still be adhering to yourself. The most glaring error is combining the deficit spending of recent years (a great deal of which was initiated by the Bush administration) with the stimulus spending and referencing them together as if they are one and the same. We can assume this is how you have arrived at your own inflated numbers.

    If you want to argue that the link you provided is in fact valid information, I would suggest that you read another post from the same multiple author blog HERE . . it tells quite a different story.

    As for your post #139 where you attempt to make a point by replacing the word right with left in earlpearl's observation of what takes place on this forum, you must have missed the fact that the behavior of a handful of individuals and one person in particular, was being addressed by that observation.

    This forum has been ruined by a self appointed right wing watch dog exhibiting signs of disturbing psychotic behavior. Even after multiple complaints by numerous individuals, he continues to misrepresent the words of others by twisting them to suit his worldview. Another person on this forum doesn't even bother being that subtle, he simply re-writes the words of others, uses the quoting utility and then responds to the re-written words in his posts.

    If you can provide an example of one person contributing to this forum with left political leanings who is doing things like this then maybe you have a point.

    In any event, free for all antics like these simply drive people away. . . now watch and see how long it takes for the self appointed watch dog's disturbing psychotic behavior to manifest itself in a long acidic post laced with insults . . . last time it took just a few minutes.
     
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