The BIBLE.

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  1. mistermix

    mistermix Active Member

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    #41
    You are talking nonsense.

    'Weakness in your argument' - I have not made any argument or point, you are debating with the chip on your shoulder.

    The existence of god is not a fact. Its the same as the existence of invisible men.
     
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    #42
    Hmmm..So you want your kids to not know anything about religion? Not much of a well rounded education then don't you think?

    Do you honestly think the Bible is the only thing we teach our kids? Get real!!
     
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    #43
    Teaching kids about religion has nothing to do with giving them a well rounded education. Sure they can have 1 lesson on creationism.

    But telling them they belong to a particular religion and must follow certain traditions needs to stop.

    Please stop teaching your kids about religion.


    'Do you honestly think the Bible is the only thing we teach our kids?' - I did not suggest this at all.
     
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    #44
    You certainly teach them to ignore scientific facts in favour of the bullshit that's written in your holy book.
     
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    #45
    Aaahhhh...I see now. You are tarring me with the same brush. I don't teach my kids they belong to any religion. They make that decision themselves. In fact, the Bible teaches us that.

    OK. It's good to clear this up.

    Col :)
     
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    #46
    Well considering the fact that much of the fish remained in the ocean during Noah's travel - would give one time to ponder more on this matter. As well as it took Noah 40 days to build a ship. I am sure there was time in between to gather what he needed. And according to the bible I believe the land was of one mass. Which would account for what he did take. Science leaves enough room for one to think that at times Religion may have some good points. It just doesnt explain anything.

    And if you ever thought about it, how many extinct animals is science currently finding. Not all the animals that existed centuries or thousands of years ago are still with us today. Unless you account for roachs and crocodile/alligators.
     
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    #47
    If given what the bible says about jesus is true, and he only lived 2000 years ago or so in a fairly modern roman country.. why there is virtually no corresponding historical record of him?

    If you look at the facts - jesus might have existed tho he probably didn't. What is without doubt the story given in the bible is a complete fairy story which you can not place one ounce of trust in.

    Should take you at least 30mins - 1 hour to go through all of this
    http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/scott_oser/hojfaq.html

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    www.thekn0wledge.com
     
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    #48
    It took Noah 40 years not 40 days. It rained 40 days and 40 nights.
     
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    #49
    Can you prove to me that particles smaller than the atom exist? Can you show me what a atom looks like?

    You cant see these items but you know the work.

    Science maybe factual. But is it not evolving? How many times did they have to redo carbon dating?
     
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    #51
    Can you prove me to jesus existed? Can you show me what he looked like?
     
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    #52
    This my point exactly as much as you can not prove to me particles smaller than an atom look like. You know they are there, you know they work. This same faith and hope are instilled in religious people. They know he is real and his teachings work for themselves in their lives. As much as beliving that medicine will work when they are sick.
     
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    #53
    Good point. Same applies to many things. Gravity, radiation, oxygen, electricity, time and space. We can't see them but we know they exist. Why? How?......Research. Plain old research.

    Col :)
     
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    #54
    Besides other religions and philosphies recognize Christ from centuries ago. IMHO I belive in my heart of hearts, religion and science can not survive without the other.

    One must have faith in Christ as well as medicine, doctors and science to help improve our lives. Scientific research has been done and says that those who pray have a stronger survival rate. Even in metally ill people or those who have attempted suicide find those with religious affilations fair off better than those who do not.

    Why is it that science has a need to cancel religion or the belief in a higher being? It always fall back on the question man always asks of himself. Who am I? Where did I come from? And where and I am going?

    Even to this date science has not proven there is no such thing or person as Jesus Christ.
     
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    #55
    I don't think you should be calling it "faith" or "hope". Those words should be used when no evidence is present.
     
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    #56
    the difference is.. i accept and every other scientist that atoms may or may not exist if you provide evidence... but Christians don't accept the same about jesus even tho we've proven that he doesn't.
     
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    #57
    I have not seen any hard evidence from science that Christ does not exist. And by the way, Christmas is a christian backed holiday, followers of christ. The practice of it is base off of Christ. And is practiced or placed at different times of the year depending on where you live. Like in South America below the equator their winter is Northern Americas summer.
     
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    #59

    For one the article does not give any references, such as page number, text name etc.

    The article did not disprove there was no christ. Reread this point the author made in the 1st paragraph: "I argue that the answer to this question is "not much"--at the very best, some of the texts I consider support the proposition that Jesus existed and perhaps was executed by the Romans. They do not prove that he performed any miracles, rose from the dead, or did anything else ascribed to him in the New Testament."

    He further concludes off of eye witness accounts or testimoney of whether or not if the accounting of events around Christ happened. The article did not state that there was not Christ. The article was just trying to prove if miracles or events acuatlly happened around the life of Christ. It did not prove there was not Christ.

    So you need to bring another article on telling me there was no Christ.

    As far as the when the calender started. It was prior to 0 AD. The life of Christ was started at 0 Ad plus or minus 2 - 3years depending on what culture calender you are going by. Roman, Greek or Hebrew. If you read the bible even off of a historical reading. You will find there were many people and another book prior to the New Testament.
     
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    #60
    I'm not talking about you personally. :)

    I just want holy books to be left in libraries for people to discover for themselves or not.
     
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