Experience With CPAcampaigns

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by DEVIL, Nov 24, 2006.

  1. #1
    After Working Hard and spending more than 5000$ with adwords i made around 9000$ with CPAcampaigns .com I requested them for payment .

    Firstly they said they were talking with the advertisers regarding the Leads. Next after few days they sent a email that i sent bad leads and my account was made inactive.

    Then i replied them about the traffic as it was perfectly from Search Engine. Even the refferer of clicks has the proof.

    Then they replied me stating

    We are investigating the situation further and are asking for more definitive answers. I will not remove you form the network – I will let you know when I hear anything from the client.


    But still my account is still inactive .

    Most of my earnings are at stake . I am having all my credit card bills that i have to pay that i used for adwords. I am not sure what to do .

    Can anyone suggest me the best way to deal this ?

    Should i file a lawsuit and sue them for this ?

    Thank You.
     
    DEVIL, Nov 24, 2006 IP
  2. jameskon

    jameskon Well-Known Member

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    #2
    did they provided you the live tracking login and what was the user aggrement..

    first go through it properly...there should be clause regarding canceling the agreement with in some specified period and if they have not given you any intimation for inactive account... then they are gone...
     
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  3. DEVIL

    DEVIL Peon

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  4. jameskon

    jameskon Well-Known Member

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    got it.. you have the mail from them.. reply it saying that its not your concern wether the leads declined by merchants or not!!! notthing was mentioned in while sign up and i have not any legal documentation in this regard.

    you can move to court but make sure you have the evedance for the fact that those leads were actually generated.. otherwise they will escape saying that it can be a bug showing false stats...

    got it
     
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  5. ryanman

    ryanman Active Member

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    Not all direct track based sites allow promotion via non-content based sites. Did you put a direct link to the advertisers landing page on your adword ad or did you create landing pages with only affiliate links only it & no content? However, I always promote an affiliate program with pay per click only after I ve received at least one payment from them so that i am sure that they will pay me again.
     
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  6. DEVIL

    DEVIL Peon

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    Its the direct track link that i have used ..( Affiliate Links ) Everything was tracked in direct track . even in my account it shows pending payment of 9000$ .

    Even i need to do as you do from next time .
     
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  7. ryanman

    ryanman Active Member

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    I have had something like this with a dating affiliate network, I provided them with tons of paid memberships but they never paid me, I am still wondering what went wrong. The last email I had from them mentioned they are investigating my case and would get in touch with me but no reply till date. I tried to contact them via ICQ but the manager would not reply to any of my messages. The sensible thing to do here would be keep on their back about this show them screenshots of your adword billings & ads with a detailed report & hope for the best. If still it does not work out than I think, you should consult your lawyer, as $5000 could not be considered an amount to be overlooked.
     
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  8. DEVIL

    DEVIL Peon

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    Yes i will surely do that if they dont pay me by December 1st . I will file a lawsuit against them . I am confident about the traffic . If the advertiser doesnt pay them then its their problem . When i am sending in paid traffic from search they just cant state bad leads and make my account inactive without paying . I deal with 4 other affiliate networks . I never had any problem with them for the traffic i sent .

    It would be better if i file a lawsuit as they will learn not to repeat or play with affiliates who pour in their hard earned money to bring in traffic .
     
    DEVIL, Nov 24, 2006 IP
  9. tke71709

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    #9
    Or more likely, they'll just shut down and start up under a new name two days later.

    Why didn't you stick with a more reputable/well known company than go with these guys?
     
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  10. DEVIL

    DEVIL Peon

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    There was a good campaign with them. But didnot expect them to do this..

    I also deal with azoogle,cpaempire and clickbooth ..everyone are just awesome ..ontime payment . With Cpaempire and Copeac(They started wire transfer only for me) i even get weekly payout.

    Just bcos of giving them a try .I am facing the problem now.
     
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  11. drugoon

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    #11
    that's bad, I really thought they are better... Good luck!
     
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  12. RussReynolds

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    #12
    I've had good luck with Max Bounty so far.
     
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  13. DEVIL

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    I Sent them a email again today as its 30th .

    I will let you know their reply.
     
    DEVIL, Nov 29, 2006 IP
  14. RussReynolds

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    #14
    Keep on top of them!
     
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  15. DEVIL

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    #15
    I am just Pasting the Conversation between me and the Affiliate Manager of CPAcampaigns.

    This is the way the work. Take the leads. Dont pay by saying they are bad leads.

    Coolcowboy (08:22 PM) :

    Hello

    melissacpacamp (08:23 PM) :

    hello

    Coolcowboy (08:23 PM) :

    I just called u up . Not sure if i am not audiable

    melissacpacamp (08:24 PM) :

    there was no one on the line

    melissacpacamp (08:24 PM) :

    what's up?

    Coolcowboy (08:24 PM) :

    Its regarding my payment . Today is 1st .

    melissacpacamp (08:24 PM) :

    you are correct

    melissacpacamp (08:25 PM) :

    this is what has happened - all of the leads sent on the Ellis offer - the school has said that none of them are any good, therefore we will not be paying for them

    Coolcowboy (08:25 PM) :

    Well the leads are perfect from search engine .

    Coolcowboy (08:25 PM) :

    There is no way anyone can cheat it ryt

    melissacpacamp (08:26 PM) :

    and as per our Terms and Conditions, when fraud occurs, we reserve the right to refuse all payments, so I am sorry, but there will be no payments sent to you

    Coolcowboy (08:26 PM) :

    Ok . I guess you need to keep all your documents perfect

    Coolcowboy (08:26 PM) :

    there are no terms and conditions during signup

    Coolcowboy (08:26 PM) :

    and also the traffic i have sent is perfect.

    melissacpacamp (08:27 PM) :

    uh. yes there are terms and conditions that you have to agree to to become an affiliate

    melissacpacamp (08:27 PM) :

    it will not let you continue without agreeing to them

    Coolcowboy (08:27 PM) :

    Okey . Thats fine actording to that its net 30

    Coolcowboy (08:27 PM) :

    i did wait for 30 days

    melissacpacamp (08:27 PM) :

    we also have heard that this has happened with you on other networks, so there really is no room to discuss this

    Coolcowboy (08:27 PM) :

    and well the traffic is perfect and the leads are not fraudlent

    Coolcowboy (08:28 PM) :

    bcos i dont have any direct contact with the person who wil produce the lead

    Coolcowboy (08:28 PM) :

    so i am in no way concrened

    Coolcowboy (08:28 PM) :

    i have my google adword bills to prove things

    Coolcowboy (08:28 PM) :

    and also the referer

    Coolcowboy (08:28 PM) :

    i guess i need to speak to your ceo

    Coolcowboy (08:28 PM) :

    Well this is not the way to deal with the affiliates who send traffic from search

    Coolcowboy (08:29 PM) :

    I am not sending any free traffic in here

    melissacpacamp (08:29 PM) :

    Actually, you do not need to speak to my CEO - he is in complete agreement with me - and so is Sandy.

    melissacpacamp (08:29 PM) :

    We make united decisions here, and we never pay for fraud.

    Coolcowboy (08:29 PM) :

    Just prove me one thing

    Coolcowboy (08:29 PM) :

    that i made a fraud

    melissacpacamp (08:29 PM) :

    Yes?

    Coolcowboy (08:29 PM) :

    the referer is so clear

    Coolcowboy (08:29 PM) :

    that its being sent from Google

    melissacpacamp (08:30 PM) :

    NONE of the leads were accepted by the school - mostly because NONE of the email addresses or phone numbers worked

    Coolcowboy (08:30 PM) :

    if they just say that not to play

    Coolcowboy (08:30 PM) :

    pay*

    Coolcowboy (08:30 PM) :

    i cant be responsible for that

    Coolcowboy (08:30 PM) :

    i have sent in the traffic

    melissacpacamp (08:30 PM) :

    It expressly says that if the lead is incomplete or invalid, it can't and won't be paid for

    melissacpacamp (08:30 PM) :

    You have sent BAD traffic

    Coolcowboy (08:30 PM) :

    . Well you can say that i made a mistake if i drive in traffic from my website . Pay incentives to users

    Coolcowboy (08:30 PM) :

    and make them signup

    melissacpacamp (08:31 PM) :

    and, as I said, this is not the first time you have done this - I asked around and you have done this before on other networks.

    Coolcowboy (08:31 PM) :

    its so clear the traffic is from search

    melissacpacamp (08:31 PM) :

    Wait - you "

    Coolcowboy (08:31 PM) :

    well you can check with all others

    melissacpacamp (08:31 PM) :

    Pay incentives to users

    melissacpacamp (08:31 PM) :

    ???

    Coolcowboy (08:31 PM) :

    i said i wont be paying incentives to users

    melissacpacamp (08:31 PM) :

    That is expressly forbidden on this offer

    Coolcowboy (08:31 PM) :

    as i am not having any direct contact with them

    Coolcowboy (08:32 PM) :

    and well which network did i do this to ??

    melissacpacamp (08:32 PM) :

    Regardless, there really is nothing left to discuss - I am sorry if you spent money to send these leads, but the leads are considered fraud and WILL NOT be paid for

    Coolcowboy (08:32 PM) :

    i am being paid by all networks for which i do search traffic

    Coolcowboy (08:32 PM) :

    ok fine

    Coolcowboy (08:32 PM) :

    wait for the notice

    melissacpacamp (08:32 PM) :

    Notice?

    Coolcowboy (08:32 PM) :

    yup

    melissacpacamp (08:32 PM) :

    What kind of notice?

    Coolcowboy (08:32 PM) :

    You will hear soon

    melissacpacamp (08:32 PM) :

    Just so I can let our attorneys know

    melissacpacamp (08:33 PM) :

    they are waiting

    Coolcowboy (08:33 PM) :

    sure

    melissacpacamp (08:33 PM) :

    thank you

    Coolcowboy (08:33 PM) :

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    DEVIL, Dec 1, 2006 IP
  16. CPAETyler

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    I am new to this forum!

    Sounds pretty fishy to me. Were you bidding on search terms the offer does not allow? I am surprised a network would act in this manner torward an affiliate driving traffic through search. I am an Affiliate Manager with CPAEmpire.com and we are very loyal to Search Affiliates. We also have weekly wires if you can average $1000/week which many take advantage of. PM me if I can be of assistance. Good luck being the debt collector you should be in this situation!
     
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  17. drugoon

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    Welcome Tyler!

    If your trafic was legit and like CPAETyler wrote you didn't bid on not allowed keywords then that's bad Devil, I am sorry you had such problems. :(
     
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  18. DEVIL

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    I never did any such mistake . I did go according to the terms of that campaign. They just said I did bring in Bad Leads.

    The CEO of CPAcampaigns has just emailed me . I will update you further.
     
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    Now I get it where it went wrong most of the visitors, which put in their information like email, phone number etc did not put their real info in it, which is obvious in most cases. Even I don’t like providing my personal information to a third party online. Nevertheless, if a company offers an affiliate program for pay per leads this sort of situation is out of question, the company should bear this risk. The affiliate is doing its job of providing leads & should be paid no matter whether the email or phone number entered by the visitor if genuine or not. If the company is not willing to take such a risk, it should simply have a pay per sale campaign instead of pay per lead.
     
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  20. DEVIL

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    I Completely Agree with you. I am just hoping for a positive reply from their CEO .
     
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