United States Heading towards a Depression?

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  1. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    Ha ha. Brum, does writing that make you feel embarrassed? It should. The racism depicted by dems and specifically southern dems in congress from post Civil War up to the 1960's has switched parties....or maybe you've been napping for about 160 years and didn't notice.
     
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    I'm fully aware of the Republican stereotype, but you posted as if you were oblivious to Democrat past. I thought I'd remind you ;)

    Besides, I disagree that it has simply switched parties. I just think the Democrats have evolved to be more insidious. For instance, their general stance on abortion has resulted in most abortions clinics being in minority neighbourhoods. If that's not 'racist', I don't know what is.


    By the way Earl it seems you need a lesson on what racism actually is. It's one of the most misused words of today. What you're eluding to is actually racial discrimination and racial prejudice, not racism. They are all related but not synonymous. While some Republicans will be racists, their actions do not constitute "racism". One can be racist without any ill-feelings towards other races, or intentions to discriminate. Today people generalise all negative and harmful racial actions under this word, which is simply not accurate.

    Racism:
    I'm glad you bought the subject up. Way too many people use the word as a collection of other racial motivations and we can thank the media and cultural Marxists for this "new speak".
     
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  3. Obamanation

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    Acknowledgement of misstatements! We are making progress!

    But you were so willing to use the unemployment rate as telling the whole story. Why the sudden change of heart? Multiple numbers to tell the whole story? You are starting to sound like me!

    Very good! A legitimate argument not full of talking points and BS. Now you just need to make the leap to apply such logic and reasoning to New Jersey's unemployment number, as I have already done.

    Ahh, I've heard this quote before. Ann Romney has never worked a day in her life. Good job on insulting every housewife in the country. Again.

    So now retirement is a bad thing? Whats next? You going to tell us you hate people who take vacations?

    Ah, sorry. It was people who profit from their investments you wanted to attack, not people who take vacations.Silly me.

    Funny you mentio it, the real beginning of the downward trend started on January 1, 2007. What is the significance of that date, I'm trying to recall. Oh yes, it is the date the Democrats took control of both houses of congress.

    But I haven't been. I've actually only addressed job growth for the last year and the YTD.

    Perhaps, and perhaps not. As YOUR article points out, Christie has a record of job growth since taking office, even with a few months of negative job growth. Perhaps the work age population in Jersey is a result of people immigating to a state with a fiscal sanity agenda.

    Ok, now you are off spouting lunacy again. Do I really need to remind you about the national average of work force participation again? Or California's unemployment rate? Or it's debt? Or its unbalanced budget? Or its unfunded pension liabilities? Common man. I hate having to repeat myself. Pay attention.

    You did not just throw me an arbitrary example of a science company that cut jobs as evidence to back the claim that all, or even the majority Jersey's job loss has been science jobs, did you? Really?

    Yes. I know ;).

    Again, more arbitrary evidence to back a spurious claim. I'm guessing you couldn't find a single report that backs your claim of net losses focued in those two areas, so you are citing examples in a paniced attempt to back your claim. Try again.

    You mean political bullshit provided by the daily beast mixed in with some hard facts for people who are unable to read charts. So funny. We've already been over everything in that article. Sad that TDB has all the credibility of TalkingPointsMemo these days. I actually spend most of my time on TDB comments, shattering the psyches of ignorant liberals. Its loads of fun. They all gather there like timid little rabbits, afraid to venture out into the open.


    LoL. And I understand a womans needs because I have a ten inch cock. Funny stuff. Imagining for a second your claim of wealth accumulation is even remotely true, you should take the time to educate yourself.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias


    What a wonderful excuse! Does that mean Bush gets to use the 9-11 attacks as a legitimate excuse for his spending? I don't imagine you are capable of equally applying such excuses, or attributing any portion of the mortgage crisis to the Democrats, Fannie, Freddie, or any other place it belongs, just as I doubt you're willing to credit Clinton for repealing Glass-Steagal. Another partisan lunatic.

    Curious. If the reason the economy is failing is because of the Bush tax cuts, why didn't Obama repeal them with super majorities in congress during 2009, 2010. If you are correct and the Bush tax cuts are to blame for the whole failed recovery, the blame still belongs with Obama. Clever aren't you.
     
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  4. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    Brum: I could give a rat's @ss about the anti abortion movement, and the extremists within that have been accused of doctoring tapes--Live Action.

    Somehow equating abortions with racism is one more example of twisting humanity into supporting the wackiness of an extremist religious perspective.

    Look: Many years ago, my ex-wife and I after having difficulties with conceiving a child got "lucky" or fortunate or blessed as she got pregnant. Half way through the pregnancy she lost the child in a mis carriage.

    On top of the emotional difficulties were the considerations that we had gone to fertility clinics, and gone through extraordinary emotional and expensive processes to conceive a child. That fertility occurred when we least expected was miraculous.

    When the miscarriage occurred the pain was in a sense doubled because of the efforts to get there.

    Now having experienced that trauma....the fact that the fetus miscarried has carried none of the pain of seeing people I know die. I didn't touch, hug, share experiences with, kiss, was kissed, watched, wondered, experienced the reality of the fetus.

    When my father, a relative, my aunt, and my closest friend died in a 4 month stretch it was emotionally devastating. They were real live people with whom I shared thousands of experiences. Their memories last with me to this day...and those multiple deaths occurred over a decade ago.

    I really don't give a crap about the anti abortion movement. I do give a crap when religious zealots tell me what to believe or not to believe and how I can act or can't act.

    The fact that the GOP has decided to 100% back the zealots of the anti abortion movement is their problem. They are providing us with idiot politicians like Akin who had the audacity to tell women if they are raped the body will naturally protect them against pregnancy...and that he was told this by doctors....is a sign of political party whose zealots have the religious extremist characteristics of the Taliban.

    Which doctors, Mr Akin??? give us their names. I think either he is lying or some doctors need to lose their licenses or both.

    but he didn't give us their names did he? guess he was lying!!!

    Turning the anti abortion movement into a crusade that equates abortions with racism is another factor of extremism and an example of a party that is willing to support the sickest perspectives for some votes and power.

    what a crock of sh!t.
     
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    Of course losing close relatives can, for some couples and individuals, be more traumatic than losing an unborn child. Not really sure why you brought this up to be honest, almost seems like a subtle justification for abortion.

    I agree that he is a moron. I'm actually atheist, if we're to play around with labels like you do so freely, so there's no need to froth at the mouth trying to cram in as many extreme adjectives as you can.

    Of course, he's a politician.

    Dude, just calm down one second. No one is equating them. You got so excited you missed the point. They're saying that selectively targeting minority neighbourhoods to house most abortion clinics is a dangerous and racially motivated act. Whether it's supply and demand or whether they're deliberately housed there is the main question.

    My point is don't jump on the bandwagon so readily. Many old Republicans may be racially prejudiced and discriminatory but look at the actions of other groups as well.

    Intelligent people don't fall for tribal group-think, you should know better.

    On a separate note, page 420 :D
     
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    One more variable to factor in - renting the space in a minority neighborhood may be cheaper.
     
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    2 things O-Nation:

    A) prove it. show us.

    B). You have not addressed why governor christie who was running around the nation promoting himself and the New Jersey experience has now, with the entire nation watching him, dropped the description. I guess all that bombast doesn't sit well when unemployment ratchets up. Doesn't speak well for the big eating governor Christie, does it?
     
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    [video=youtube;CCN5-ovvFL0]http://youtu.be/CCN5-ovvFL0[/video]


    The truth hurts.
     
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    Edward Albertian had been working for only a few weeks at his new job, managing the first two Boston-area Staples stores, when he got an unnerving call from his wife. As Staples staffed up, Albertian had been poaching talent from his old company, and his former boss was piqued.

    That morning, a courier had delivered papers to Albertian's wife threatening them with eviction unless they immediately repaid the $250,000 loan from Albertian's former company that they had used to buy their home.

    A few days later the couple, with their newborn son and 2-year-old daughter in tow, were invited to Staples' Watertown headquarters and found themselves sitting across from Mitt Romney, whose company, Bain Capital, had invested money in Staples. He had heard about their predicament from the chain's co-founder, Tom Stemberg.

    They talked for less than half an hour about the young store manager's goals and his role in the company. Then, "Mitt opened his checkbook and wrote a check for $250,000," Albertian, who is now chief operating officer of the Massachusetts-based Transnational Group, said of the 1987 encounter.

    "He said, 'You're going to be great. As soon as you sell the house, then you can pay me back, but I want you to focus on Staples and building this into a great company,'" Albertian said. (Stemberg later assumed the loan, and Albertian paid it back over a number of years).
     
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    Earl: Are you purposefully being stupid? Is your goal to emulate Mikael, the Islamic twister of truth to support lies and hatred???

    My point is to show the uselessness of empty rhetoric by switching a few words. See, that's the issue with Liberals as discussed here many time - you don't like facts, you prefer emotions. Global Warming is the best example.

    For the tenth time - SHOW ME THESE ARTICLES! What "peer-reviewed science articles"? I have two degrees in science (bet you hate that, right?) and for reasons already explained I am willing and able to believe that global warming is man-made if you can show me the science. So, show me these "peer-reviewed science articles", please.

    O-Nation, SHAME ON YOU for contradicting the Democrat's narrative! I'm sure all Democrats are horrified that Romney helped these poor people! Dems would much rather Romney walked away from the couple so the Democrats could celebrate the couple's bankruptcy and eventual joint suicide!
     
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    I'm here at Charlotte, North Carolina ! :cool:

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    Apple Pie a la Merde ?

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    HOW LIBERALS ARGUE
    [video=youtube;uGwtG8nVpUU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGwtG8nVpUU[/video]

    Conservative: Why do you continue to level personal attacks against me, while avoiding the issues?
    Liberal: I am liberal. I like TV.
     
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    Which makes Romney a great









    businessman. You don't want an employee who's moving your company into a new market to be worrying about anything other than the company. It doesn't say anything about Romney the person.
     
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    To date, many of the stories friends and advisors tell of Romney emphasize his tendency, as one put it, to personally "run at problems and fix them."

    One often-cited episode was his decision to shut down Bain Capital and organize a multiday search party to find a partner's teenage daughter, who had vanished after a party. After he recruited Bain's lawyers, accountants and other business associates to walk the streets of Manhattan showing her picture, authorities found the girl tied up in a New Jersey basement. ​
     
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    But if Obama did this, the Democrats would pronounce him a deity sent to save humanity, right?
     
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    Yes, he certainly fixates on what's most important. All those stories about using his money to help all those who are poor, downtrodden, out of work, lacking medical insurance ...

    I must have just missed those stories.
     
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    Hasn't happened yet, unless I missed the story.
     
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    The Rev. Jeffrey Brown, who heads a faith-based gang intervention group in Roxbury, Mass., and spoke frequently to Romney during his governorship, saw two facets of the man -- the executive and the spiritual counselor -- come together after Hurricane Katrina when the Massachusetts Legislature provided shelter on Cape Cod for evacuees. Romney wanted members of the black clergy to attend to the arrivals -- because he said some would rather talk to pastors than mental health professionals -- and asked Brown to lead the effort.

    Romney arrived a few days later, telling Brown he wanted to hear the stories directly from the victims, many of whom were from New Orleans' hard-hit Lower 9th Ward.

    "He wanted to make sure that their needs were being met," Brown said. "He brought 50 state agencies down there, and everybody's needs were attended to. I'm talking about people who left their houses in such a rush that they forgot their teeth. He had dentists down there to get them their dentures.... He was on it."

    But Brown was most surprised watching Romney interact with victims -- praying with them, sitting with them on park benches asking about their families, scooping up children and asking for hugs.

    "He was pastoral," Brown said. "He was that person with those people."​
     
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    But sadly, does not have a solution to the problem.

    I agree, in the past 3 + years the middle class and our families have paid the price. Obama's theories and economy have failed.


    Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/05/u...atic-convention-begins.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
     
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