Israel blows up bus full of Jews in Bulgaria

It really wouldn't be the United Nations then, would it. If that principal were ever applied, North Korea, Somalia, Rwanda, and Iran would already be long gone. Instead, we have Iran hosting the Human Rights Council as it slaughters it's own citizens to hold rebellion at bay.

In fact, when you consider the scumbag deadbeat governments that are allowed to persist as members, the fact that Palestine is not recognized is really really saying something. You would almost think no bar was too low to pass, and Palestinians weigh in lower than that, whatever that is.

 

The Palestinians have recognized Israel. Israel has now moved the goalpost and is asking to be recognized as a "Jewish State". There's no chance that Palestinians are going to recognize Israel as a Jewish state. Israel must drop this "Jewish state" thing if it truly wants peace.

 

Silly Jews. Why can't they just accept Israel as an Arab state and accept their subordination?

 

Wow. we agree on somethjing.

 

LMAO! Yet another....

 

You still haven't answered the question.

If you put so much credibility in the United Nations, why hasn't it recognized the state of Palestine? Why are other Arab nations against recognizing Palestine?

 

Palestinians are asking that Israel and illegal Jewish settlers and squatters leave their land. What they do with their land after the Israeli withdrawal, is entirely up to them.

Why do you support the illegal occupation of Palestinian land ? Are you one of those loonies that believes God will curse you if you don't kiss Israeli ass ?

 

The question was, If the UN has so much credibility, why does it not recognize Palestine? Were you incapable of answering his question?

 

It's a strange question you ask because Palestine was recognized on 15 December 1988, only a month after Palestinians declared their independence.

 

No it was not. Palestine was granted "observer status" to the United Nations. That means a Palestinian diplomat can just sit in the room and watch. They can't participate in debate, or vote on anything.

If the UN has so much credibility to you, why has it not fully recognized Palestine as a state?

All Israeli governments since 1992 have agreed to the creation of a Palestinian state. Why are other Arab nations blocking Palestine's full admission to the United Nations?

Honestly, when you look at the behavior of Palestine when it comes to the U.N., I don't think Palestine wants to be admitted. Look, Palestine was close to be admitted in 2011, but they insisted on listing East Jerusalem as their capital city. They had to know that Obama would veto Palestine's admission to the U.N. under those terms, right?

 

I didn't say Palestine has become a full member of the UN. I said the UN recognized Palestine. Do keep up.

Their approval is not needed. The Jews need to get off Palestinian land. That's all that is required of them.

 

1988. So strange. What was Palestine 194 then? Why seek UN recognition if they already had it? Given the opposition by the US, Canada, most of Europe, Australia, etc, doesn't it seem that the US would have vetoed their app in the Security council?

 

The name given to a diplomatic campaign by the Palestinian National Authority to gain membership for the State of Palestine in the United Nations.

 

Member states obey the rules or are expelled. Simple

 

That's a pretty pathetic compromise and you know it. But, O.K., I'll play your game.

Why has the U.N. chosen to deny Palestine membership in the United Nations?
Why are other Arab nations blocking Palestine's full admission to the United Nations?

Honestly, when you look at the behavior of Palestine when it comes to the U.N., I don't think Palestine wants to be admitted. Look, Palestine was close to be admitted in 2011, but they insisted on listing East Jerusalem as their capital city. They had to know that Obama would veto Palestine's admission to the U.N. under those terms, right?

That will happen when the US land is given back to the American Indians - in other words - NEVER! You know that.

Or shall I now review the conquered territories that Arab nations have taken from other states?

How far back in history do you want to go? Wasn't Israel originally owned by the Hebrews?

 

When has the UN denied Palestine full membership ?

Gaza was cleansed from illegal Jewish settlers. There's no reason illegal Jews cannot be cleansed from the West Bank [including Jerusalem].

The Arabs have Arabized the Middle East and North Africa. I hope you know what "Arabized" means.

According to the bible.

The Egyptians ruled it first. Should they have it ?

 

...only as far back as when it became unacceptable to land your boat on the beach of a country, plant the flag of your country in the sand and claim the country for your king.

 

The Green helmet guy comes to mind.

 

The two-dimensional debating in this thread is shocking. The Muslims and Jews are as bad as each other.

I want my government to stop sending aid to the warmongering Israelis and I want the majority of Muslims out of my country.

They can both blow each other up for all I care, I just want no part in it nor do I want my money spent on foreigners.

I do find it ridiculous that Europeans claiming to be Jews decided to make Palestine their own after terrorising the British Armed Forced who were keeping the peace there, and then established an exclusively Ashkenazi (so they claim to be) government. Everyone do themselves a favour and read the differences between Ashkenazi, Sephardic jews and original Semitic jews, and the unspoken ill-treatment of Sephardic jews and other ethnic groups in today's Israel.

Rahm Emanuel's father was part of the Israeli terrorist group, the Irgun.

The backwardness of the Islamic faith is annoying, but so too is the sheer arrogance of the Jewish faith.

How many of you have actually read the Torah and the Talmud? The Muslims aren't the only peoples with a hate filled book.

 

It is obviously a multi-dimensional issue, but was your above statement making a comparison of religions, a comparison of Palestinians/Arabs to Israelis, or both? If you were comparing religions, I have no comment.

If you were comparing the groups of people, I think Israel can be favored by almost any measure, while at the same time acknowledging they are not spotless by any measure. Its war. You get down in the mud, you are going to get dirty, and the US and Britain have fought as dirty as any other nation. The burning of Dresden, the internment of Japanese, the propping up of dictators, perhaps very wrong in retrospect, but mid-conflict, continuing to support your allies even if you condemn some of the activities is the only behavior that doesn't wind up in defeat.

And before anyone mentions it, yes I apply the same reasoning to Palestinian support for acts of terror against Israel and her supporters. Its one of the reasons I am a fan of the Bush Doctrine. They pull a knife, you pull a gun. They send one of yours to the hospital, you send one of theirs to the morgue. This is how battles are fought and won, and implausible deniability should not get in the way.