Many countries have enacted gun bans, but regardless of the country you still see stories of home invasions, robberies, the weak preyed on by youth, etc. Our country allows us to own the technology that allows even a senior citizen or a frail mom in their home, place of business or other to convert serious threats into carpet stains, regardless of physical size advantage or numeric superiority of the attackers. The stuff that makes the news like the shooting at the Sikh temple is horrific. What doesnt make the news is the many times an armed citizen uses a gun to stop a crime. Two recent examples come to mind, both of which have the unique advantage of having been taped. In the first... Two young thugs stormed into an internet cafe for a takeover style robbery. One waved a gun and shouted as the other began smashing computers with a bat for effect. Fortunately a 71 (?) yr old guy was a lawful concealed permit holder, and he opned fire. Despite outnumbering him, and one had a gun... Both robbers ran like their butts were on fire. They had hoped for unarmed victims. Similarly, a week or so back there was a jewelry store robbery. FIVE young men came in. Two were waving guns and screaming for the employees and customers to get down. The other three carried pillow cases to gather personal loot and jewelry. This time the owner, a lady in her 60s, was in the back. She retrieved a revolver and opened fire... Two shots. Any one of the five was more than a match physically and two carried guns. They ran all over each other exiting, and the first two to the getaway vehicle left the rest afoot. We are not going to rid the US of guns. They give those who might otherwise be helpless an advantage. What we need to get rid of is this fantasy called the "gun free zone". Those are almost always the venue of choice in mass shootings. That correlation isnt an accident. Criminals like unarmed victims, and frequently fold when confronted with ANY armed resistance.
Well that is true but you need to remember that if the person using the gun to defend him/herself does not know how, the attacker will not only end up with his/her gun(s), the carpet stains will be hard to clean and forget.
So you think an unarmed 71 yr old victim vs multiple young punks is safer than one that is armed? Odd logic. It didnt work out real well for anyone in the Sikh Temple or the Batman flick shooting. They did however have the benefit on knowing they did not have their weapon taken from them. Maybe that can be carved on thir grave markers. Here's the source on the first story... with video: http://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-ma...-internet-cafe/story?id=16800859#.UCXGRKMecto [video=youtube;HtoiCIk2jto]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtoiCIk2jto&feature=player_detailpage[/video] And heres the other I mentioned. [video=youtube;xzPu8XcVRJo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzPu8XcVRJo[/video] Lotta people couldve been harmed in either case. Instead a bunch of robbers went to jail. These are both recent cases, but they DONT stay in the news specifically because armed citizens averted potential catastrophe.
I went back to my post read it few times. I don't think I said that. I said if the person using the gun does not know how to use it, the attacker could harm him/her more. Plus could also take of with the gun and use it on his next victim. I myself have multiple guns and enjoy shooting. But when I leave the house. I worry that someone may break in and use them against my family. Putting guns in a safe place does not work either. If the robber finds a safe he will try to get what ever is inside it at any price. Plus, please don't judge me from what I wrote. I have not said that I was pro gun control. Peace
Who would actually carry a gun but not know how to use it? As for the family at home... seems training is a good answer. I was taught to use them at an early age. Among other things it helps demystify them, plus if you know how to use them it helps avoid accidents.
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The guys in that video are mostly evidence that Charles Darwin was a genius. Clearly none were the variety of idiot we see in this state... As i did not hear the mandatory proclaimation that is required to precede such events: "Hey! Watch this shit!" That said, i don't think the existence of morons disproves my premise any more than the theory of internal combustion is disproved when my truck fails to start. YMMV ADD: Btw, we may have a language issue clouding this, so to clarify, there's a distinct difference between "carrying" a firearm (refers to having one on your person when out and about) vs simply having access to one at a controlled environment like a range but being clueless as to how it functions. The weapons in the video were not what we'd consider "carry" weapons, and the people firing them were in most cases probably on leave from an insane asylum or taking part in the TV show "Jackass"... Cause limp-wristing a high powered weapon is known to anyone knowledgeable of firearms to be a cheap way to get a nose job. Funny video though... Thanks for sharing it. Laughed my butt off.
I love the way people saying guns are great produce videos of armed hold ups being prevented, armed home invasions being thwarted and when a great many innocent people get killed call for less gun free zones so geniuses like the 71 yr old above can put a hell of a lot of other innocent lives in danger. And people boasting of having loaded guns at hand in the home because of all the criminals running rampant in the neighbourhood. I just shakes me head. It must be like living in the most dangerous war zone in the world with the constant fear and terror pervading the atmosphere on a day to day basis.
I will be happy to supply news articles detailing home invasions in Australia... but we've been there before, and you don't listen. If you wish to think someone is morally superior because he's lying in a pool of his own blood instead of calling the cops to come pick up the bodies, you're welcome to your opinion.
Terrorism is one of the worst thing this earth is facing..when did these peoples begin to hate Blood?
You don't have to supply news articles about Australian home invasions. I live here I know they happen occasionally, just like armed holdups and the occasional murder. Crime is everywhere, it happens, get over it - you don't listen. You may if you wish supply the statistics that show that the US is crime free and that your murder rate is almost zero because its citizens are armed to the teeth protecting themselves. When you do then I will listen about how a gun society is better than a gun free society.
Unlike you, I'm willing to acknowledge reality... the best way to stop a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun. Your choice is to leave that up to the cops. Mine isnt. Only time I ever threw down on someone... I didnt have to fire a shot and the person about to get knifed lived. They make very convincing visual aids. Honestly, Which guy do you think is pissed about citizens with guns... the guy that didn't get knifed after all or the knife wielding jerk that went to jail?
I only time I was confronted with a gun in a holdup situation I didn't need a gun to hose down the situation, it was just calmed down. I'm a coward not a hero but I know that there is a right way to deal with everything. The cops arrested the man later. A long time later but he was arrested. You blokes ever think about the society you are leaving your grandchildren. 238 million guns owned by citizens at the moment and bigger and better guns being added each day. The Home guard arming itself to the hilt, not because the country is in any danger of invasion but obviously because of the internal danger. Total madness and it looks like it is unstoppable. A recipe for a major, major confrontation at some stage. God help America because it's going to destroy itself.
No problem. I understand you've ceded your safety and the safety of your family to others. Just not prepared to follow you down that path.