Israel blows up bus full of Jews in Bulgaria

I meant, YOU are a waste of my time. I don't want to converse with dumb people. Sorry.

 

Hey, the guy is in the UK living vicariously thru the exploits of others by acting all terrorist on the web. It's just mean of you to rain on his fantasy parade.

 

Lol. Do you actually believe in what you wrote or are you just practicing the art of lying?
There is concerning growth of like minded people such as Mikael in the UK - it is a bit worrying.

 

He is a waste of your time ? LOLOL you got owned by browntwn ! Wakey Wakey !

 

A snapshot of Mikael/Solar Products/Israel. Everybody knows who he is.

 

That does not mean the Joos have to drag the USA into their problems. Do you not feel bad that the USA has lost $3 trillion dollars on little Israel ? Do you know how many jobs could have been created in the USA with that money ?

 

Nah, I think both Israel and US benefit from this investment. Can't say the same about Egypt though - US is making a huge ass investment to keep their faces shut and not go all "allah akbar" against evil Israel. We don't really have true peace with Egypt, surely not going to happen with palestinians.

But more on topic now, where did you learn to misquote and promote misinformation like that? I mean, to what lengths will you people go and lie about things just to promote your agenda? This is disturbing.

 

Like the benefit of :

- 9/11 ?

- Bombing of the American ship by Israel ?

- Arab oil embargoes ?

I don't know man, paying $1 billion dollars per year so that ships can go through the suez canal and the strait of tiran is not a bad idea. I say the Egyptians should ask for more.

 

You didn't answer the question at the end of post 63.

"You are sat at home watching TV with your wife and children. Suddenly the door gets kicked in and six armed Canadian soldiers rush in. You are told to pick up what you can carry in your arms and get out. You watch as your home and possessions are destroyed. You are told by the Canadians that they need the land that you legally own and from which you make a living , to build houses for all the Canadians that want to come and illegally live in your country. You are herded into a refugee camp and basically left to survive as best you can. Are you really going to sit there and tell me that you would be happy with that? Can you honestly say that YOU would not feel like fighting those that are enjoying a high standard of living on land that you legally own whilst you starve in a refugee camp...and fighting them with whatever means you can get your hands on.

Now that is the position that Palestinians find themselves in. So I'll ask you the same question that Obamaman refused to answer. WHAT WOULD YOU DO IN THAT SITUATION?"

 

I think your premise is simplistic and unrealistic, and more importantly not similar to what happened to the Palestinians. But, even if it were, I would not conduct myself as the Palestinians conduct themselves or as you seem to condone and assume everyone would.

I would not support or join in the attacking of civilians. I certainly would not sit as a refugee for 60 years, impoverishing my children and community. I would not support the kidnapping of civilians or hijacking of places. Like many Palestinians I would probably have tried to move to some other country to move on with my life with my family. I assure you I would not risk my sons over a piece of dirt. I would not subject my family to a fight lasting generations. I would not lose my dignity by advocating hate.

Let's get real here. The Palestinians should have a state, they should have had it decades ago. Wars have happened and they have not prevailed and still they could have a state. They could grow their civil society and be prosperous, but instead they seek something which is not going to happen. They are not suddenly going to take over another country that has existed for 60+ years, and the people of Israel are not going anywhere. So what end game are they playing?

Instead of choosing to live in a state beside Israel they decided to fight and try to prevent any state of Israel from being formed. They lost. They attacked Israel and lost again. They attacked Israel and lost again, each time with the support of other countries.

East Jerusalem was Jordanian. Explain how when Israel takes it from Jordan in a war, it becomes Palestinian? You seem to be so blinded by your hate of Israel that you dismiss all the facts that support Israel's positions, you dismiss the wrongful acts of the Palestinians and other countries they have fought with against Israel over the years.

As has been said, when the Palestinians love their children more than they hate the Jews there will be peace. When all the people alive in 1948 are long dead and gone, you will still be supporting one group of descendents trying to take land from another group. If we did that everywhere in history nobody would be safe and practically everyone in the world be displaced. World history is just a bunch of stories of groups fighting over land, often going back and forth many times over centuries. A city often times would be held by one group for hundreds of years, then another, and so on. Why should be go back to 1948 only for the Palestinians, why not pick other dates and right every historical taking of land? Why not, because it is fucking nuts. People who support the Palestinian attempt to have a state - I support them. People who support the Palestinian attempt to take Israel... well, usually that includes groups that specifically hate Israel and was to see all her citizens pushed into the sea - I think they are idiots. I think the Israeli people have every right to live in the country they formed in 1948. Were some Palestinians displaced - yes. Did many Palestinians leave willingly so that they could better support countries attacking Israel - yes. Does Israel accept Muslims and Arabs as citizens of its country - yes. Does Palestine accept Jews - no. Do most Arab or Muslim countries show any tolerance of Jews being allowed to live peacefully - no. Where is your cry for justice for all the Jews that were kicked out of other middle east countries? What? Oh, they settled in Israel. Why is that okay for the Jews and not for Palestinians? I feel bad for Palestinian children and families who would rather just live in peace that be pawns in the Arab/Muslim hate fest and jihad to destroy Israel and Jews. They should fight for peace - they would find much support in the world.

As an American I happily support Israel and my government's support of Israel. I think that whatever the countries in the middle east want do to Israel they would also like to do to America. It is clear what the Muslim word would like to see happen to the non-Muslim world.

But it doesn't matter at all what I think or what you think. The Palestinians and the Israelis need to resolve this issue. There is a middle ground that would result in a prosperous Palestinian state. If you think it is Israel who prevents that you are kidding yourself. People like you, blindly supporting Jew hating members on this forum, well you are just a useful idiot.

 

The Jordanians and the Jews held secret meetings in the 1940's. They agreed that Jordan would have the West Bank, and the Jews could keep the rest of Palestine. This would be of-course, at the expense of the Palestinians. Jordan was wrong to capture the West Bank in 1948 and Israel was wrong to capture the West Bank in 1967. They are both criminals.

Those Jews don't want to go back to where they were expelled from. The expulsion of Jews from Arab countries has nothing to do with the Palestinians anyway. Take it up with the Arab countries.

Who are you fooling ?

1948 - Jews with the help of Jordan start war with Palestinians by stealing their land.

1956 - Israel starts war with Egypt.

1967 - Israel starts war with Egypt, Syria and Jordan.

1982 - Israel starts war with Lebanon.

2006 - Israel starts war with Lebanon.

2008 - Israel starts war with Gaza.


Why do Jews love war so much ?

 

Only himself...clearly!

 

A Welshman hiding in Spain and an immigrant who thinks by immigrating to the UK will give him blond hair, blue eyes and white skin have one thing in common they support terrorism and are criminals.

 

So if your country became occupied, your land stolen, your home demolished and your family killed, YOU would not fight against it?

....yet you appear to support the attacking of civilians by Israel.

Many of them can't....and many feel they shouldn't have to. It's all very well saying that Palestinians should move to another country and set up businesses but how are they going to get the money to do that when your occupiers build a wall that prevents them from reaching their work. Hey, I have an idea. Instead of the USA spending trillions in supporting Israel, perhaps the USA could spend it on giving each Palestinian family $500,000, a free pass to the USA and an opportunity to start a business. After all, you did say that you think they should up an move to another country.... well how about yours?

So you're not a patriot then? Fair enough!

Israelis do it too you know?

Yes let's! The Israelis are illegally occupying Palestinian lands. They have been given hundreds of UN resolutions to give it back. The fact that they still illegally occupy it is what is causing the problem.

When the Jews love their children more than their desire to hold Palestine and withdraw to their own areas...there will be peace.

Was it "fucking nuts" for the Americans to fight against the British? I mean, we were there for a damn sight longer than the Jews have been in Palestine. You appear to think that there is some kind of 'time limit' to hold lands before they become your property!! Perhaps you feel that when all the countries within the British Empire started to demand their own lands back, we should have said 'Sod off! You can't have it back now because we've been here for hundreds of years. STFU and put up with it. If you don't like it, feck off and move to another country and start a business'.

Ummmm...did you miss the important fact that the Palestinians want back land that belongs to them.

...and what would go a good way to solving it would be for Israel to obey UN resolutions and for the USA to stop it's blatant support of Israel's illegal occupation of Palestinian lands

What would that be...for Palestinians to STFU and accept the theft of their lands?

Well of course it's Israel!!! I'm not aware of any other country illegally occupying Palestinian land...are you??

 

WTF are you talking about pooptalk? You give the impression that there is something wrong with you!

 

On the contrary it is you that there's something wrong !

Run Forest Run !

 

"On the contrary it is you that there's something wrong !" Huh??? For goodness sake...that sentence doesn't even make sense! Is English not your first language?

Try '"On the contrary it is you that there's something wrong with ! Or perhaps... 'On the contrary it is you that has something wrong with you!'

 

She's from the Phillippines. Spent most of her life cleaning toilets in Saudi Arabia before getting deported. Now working as a toilet cleaner in the USA. English is not her first language.

 

OK! I suppose she has an excuse then.

 

pladecalvo,

You should take a look at this thread to see how far the palestinians go to spread hatred towards Israel and Jews. They poison the minds of young children, a generation that will represent the palestinians in the future. Do you think this is the way for peace? Do you think Israeli kids get exposed to such filth on TV or at school?

Your posts seem to be full of hate and aggression, same as the minds of many palestinians who teach the glories of martyrdom, and unfortunately same for the kids that grow around this hate.

If you genuinely want to come to a peaceful solution, fight for honest education for palestinian children.