Israel blows up bus full of Jews in Bulgaria

Show me the posts.

 

Are you not reading this thread?

 

Bloodthirsty murderous Muslims are converging on Syria right now to feast on the latest example of the 60 year habit of Muslims killing muslims: it seems to be bigger than the biggest holiday in their twisted subhuman world: They are arriving from Chechnya, Libya, Iraq...you name it...all killer muslims aiming to kill other muslims

Muslims have killed 10 million plus muslims. they blame it on Israel. Right this second the Syrian regime is bombing and strafing its own people. Muslims from the entire muslim world are pouring in to add to the killing.

Meanwhile in possibly the most confused crazed Islamic excuse ever put out to the rest of the world, Syria's foreign minister made this accusation:

Oh yeah....Israel has a long long long history of being buddy buddy w/ Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey.

LOL.

Just another Muslim propagandist spreading lies while they engage in another episode of a 60 year religious past time---> killing other muslims.

 

Oh yes...that's how I know that there are no posts were I justify the killing of women , children and old people as Obamaman claims. If you think there are such posts then please feel free to produce them.

 

Just do a search for every post you have authored that contains the text,

"what would you do"

They are all justifications for the murder of the elderly, women, children, bombing civilian busses. It is no small amount of posts. There was one in particular where you said, "I would do the same and so would you" as if you spoke for me as well as all of Europe.

I know you don't read my posts, but do you read your own?

 

So you can't show me the posts ..fair enough. That says it all.

Then produce just ONE post where I have justified the killing of women, children and old people.

You have no intellectual integrity at all do you? I don't know how you can display such a lack of intellectual integrity.

I am now going to prove just how devoid of intellectual integrity you are by exposing your blatant lies:

You accuse me of advocating the killing of women, children and old people...yet you can't produce one single post from me to support your accusations. Why? Because no such posts exist. In fact, my stance is the exact opposite of what you are accusing me of and I will prove it by producing the following (you see obamaman? I can produce the posts to back up my claim...you can't)

1: In post 13 of the 'Hamas' post, I specifically state that it is NOT acceptable to kill innocent people.

"No, it isn't acceptable and I never said that it was (so your argument is a straw man) and neither is Israel's illegal occupation of Palestinian lands acceptable or it's use of high-tec weapons against innocent civilians."

2: In post 38 of the same thread where you again accused me of accepting the murder of women and children as a means to an end, I specifically told you that I do not and challenged you, YET AGAIN, to find any post of mine that advocates the killing of women and children for political ends....you still haven't done so.

3: As for me saying "I would do the same and so would you", it should be clear enough to anyone that I was referring to fighting anyone that attempted to take our homes and kill our families and I clarified that in post 47.

4: In post 74 there is another specific statement were I denounce terrorism.

"I am against terrorism in all forms, whether it comes from the Palestinians, Jews, Africans, Germans, British, Spanish or anyone else that you care to mention. "

Followed by...

"Nope! I don't want to see Jews dying any more than I want to see Palestinians dying."

So there you are obamaman. You are proven a liar, a charlatan and a fraud by accusing another member of saying things that he did not. I have proven my stance by showing you what I have said and providing the post numbers where I said it. Now I challenge you to prove that you are not a liar, charlatan and fraud and that you are not devoid of intellectual integrity by.....

1: Providing the post numbers where my actual words advocate that the killing of women and children is acceptable- rather than YOU interpreting my words to mean what you want them to mean.
2: Proving the post number for the post in which you claim that you answered my question...'What would you do if someone took your home, your land and killed your family"

....or hang your head in shame!

 

Delightful. A classic example of Islamist double speak. "I never justified the killing of women and children, as I stated clearly here, and there, and over there, but I also would ask you, what would you do in their shoes? Thats right, kill women and children". To your thinking, that isn't a justification for murder at all.

Did it ever occur to you that those two positions don't reconcile with each other? Mind you, that region of the world is well know for such paradoxical speech.

• "We don't have any gays in Iran, we just give them all sex changes"
• "I would never laugh at 9-11, though I did have a grin on my face when it happened becuase of reason a, reason b and reason c"
• "I believe ina two state solution, so long as Israel changes it's immigration laws in such a way to cause it's state to self implode"
• "Israel is the aggressor, which is why we are preemptively firing rockets into their civilian neighborhoods"
• "There are no rapes in Saudi Arabia, though if we were alone, I would likely rape you"

It goes on and on and on. Its rather funny.

You ever see the interpretation machine on the movie "Mars Attacks", that would spit out exactly the opposite of what the martians were actually saying? Pure comedy. "We come in peace! We come in peace!"
[video=youtube;rMdC45S79uQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMdC45S79uQ[/video]

Sorry pal, I don't come from a culture of shame, but that statement right there is VERY telling as to exactly who and what you are.

 

We're done dude! You can't produce the post that you say are there. You can only interpret my posts to say what you want them to say. You are busted pal. I have proven you a liar and a fraud. We have nothing more to say to each other.

There is no need to tell us that. It patently obvious from your posts that you have no shame.

 

Any way the rest of us can get in on that deal?

 

Sure! Just don't respond to my posts. Easy huh?

 

I might be going out on a limb here, but I'd say he is about as committed to not talking to me as he is to ending Palestinian murders of women and children, shooting from schools and hospitals, hiding behind babies, blowing up busses filled with the elerly, etc.

Getting in on pladecalvo's ignore list is a bit like getting in on a Hamas peace treaty.

 

Nah! All you have to do is lie and misrepresent, as you have and be without any intellectual integrity, as you are. Even now, when you have been exposed, you still can't produce the posts that contain the words you accuse me of saying. That makes you a liar and that's what gets you ignored.

Have a nice day!

 

In 2008, up to 27th Dec., the home-made rockets that Hamas fired into Israel killed no-one. In return the Israelis killed 400 children and 900 adults in Gaza. After the Israeli attacks Hamas rockets killed 3 Israeli civilians. The Israelis shelled clearly designated UN schools sheltering civilians and used white phosphorus against civilians, both of these actions are war crimes. USA supplied, free, the aircraft, helicopter gunships, missiles, bombs and bullets for these attacks and will block any international condemnation of Israel in UN.
BBC - "I rushed back to find their dead bodies - or rather parts of their bodies - strewn all over the room. . . "
BBC - Amnesty Finds Evidence of War Crimes
TIMESONLINE - Amnesty International: Gaza white phosphorus shells were US made
BBC - Israel troops admit Gaza abuses

More...
http://www.peterloud.co.uk/palestine/
http://www.soundofegypt.com/palestinian/adult/massacres.htm

 

Jews are begining to feel shame. At least there are some Jews that have a social conscience.

"A group of prominent British Jews will today declare independence from the country's Jewish establishment, arguing that it puts support for Israel above the human rights of Palestinians.

Independent Jewish Voices will publish an open letter on the Guardian's Comment is Free website calling for a freer debate about the Middle East within the Jewish community. Among the more than 130 signatories are Stephen Fry, Harold Pinter, Mike Leigh, Jenny Diski and Nicole Farhi, as well as leading academics such as Eric Hobsbawm and Susie Orbach.

"We come together in the belief that the broad spectrum of opinion among the Jewish population of this country is not reflected by those institutions which claim authority to represent the Jewish community as a whole," the letter says. Jewish leaders in Britain, it argues "put support for the policies of an occupying power above the human rights of an occupied people" in conflict with Jewish principles of justice and compassion."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/feb/05/israel1

 

I can't speak to the dribble you wrote above. But let's have some fun and look at your first URL:
http://www.peterloud.co.uk/palestine/

It's obviously someone's personal page, right? So I can safely ignore what's written there as biased. But, O.K., there are some "respectable" news links. Let's look at this one that you are so proudly proclaiming:

Yesterday, as I wrote that, the Israelis were firing tank shells into a U.N. school in which civilians were sheltering. At least 40 were killed and another 55 wounded. As I said, Israel and America who provided them with the weapons are evil terrorist states.

O.K., good link from The Guardian. Now, the Guardian is a U.K. newspaper and as I recall, Guardian is anti-Israel. But O.K., I read the article and yes, it does appear that Israel bombed a school and killed innocent children.

But wait - what's this I see near the bottom of the article:

(exact quote, typos and all. Isn't it odd that The Guardian wrote that paragraph so poorly?)
So, Islamic Terrorists fire mortars from a school playground. Israel responded with "a single shell" NOT a rocket-fired missile, NOT something with an explosive warhead, but a SHELL, at that same playground (pladecalvo would rather the Israelis just take the bombs and die, right?)

A single mortar hits the playground, yet a massive explosion ripped through the school killing everyone inside? Listen up: a single mortar shell does not have the capacity to destroy an entire building. It could take down a few walls maybe. Why the tremendous explosion?

Later examination of the site proved that Islamic extremists had rigged the entire school with explosives. Islamic extremists sentenced these children to death. Islamic extremists killed those children. Those children were killed by Islamic extremists. So ordered by the Koran.

People like @pladecalvo feel intense joy at the deaths of schoolchildren because their deaths are useful. Want proof? Look at pladecalvo's posts. He feels no sadness, no remorse, at the deaths of children. Their lives were snuffed out only to wrongly accuse Israel. their deaths are useful to him.

Islamic extremists have a perverted history of targeting schoolchildren.

Remember 9/11

 

And there it is again, shame.

Queston: Which one are you in this picture?

 

Oh c'mon O'Nation, what makes you think he spends his time on politics They do get out ya know.

 

You can bury your head in the sand and ignore it if you wish but all the claims in that article can be verified. The author even give you links where you an check out his claims. If you really are interested, I suggest you take each of the authors claims and check them out.

"the Israeli military claimed"! Now given their past record on human rights, just why the hell should we believe what the 'Israeli military' claim? The independent reporters on the scene explain what happened...........

"The UN was particularly incensed over targeting of the schools, because Israeli forces knew they were packed with families as they had ordered them to get out of their homes with leaflet drops and loudspeakers. It said it had identified the schools as refugee centres to the Israeli military and provided GPS coordinates."

Yep! That sounds about right for the Israelis given their past record.

"The head of the UN Palestinian refugee agency, John Ging, said three shells landed at the perimeter of the schoo

Really!! I missed that in the report. Can you point out just where it says that in the article...or are YOU another Obamaman that sees things that are not there. Provide information on this 'later examination' please such as WHO carried out the examination....or do you think that you can just make things up and nobody is going to be smart enough to challenge you on it....or perhaps it was the Israeli military that 'claimed' that 'Islamic extremists had rigged the entire school with explosives'. LOL!

"Israel continues to insist most of those killed by its forces are Hamas and Islamic Jihad fighters - although its assertion it is going to extraordinary lengths to target only "terrorists" has been undermined by a tank firing on a building used by Israeli troops, killing four of them, on Monday. "

Wrong...and you would have seen my statement regarding that if you had bothered to look.

It is you that need to look at my posts...particularly the ones that I have quoted in post #26 of this thread. You can find what I have ACTUALLY said highlighted in red. You would do well to read them before making comments that can so easily be disproved.

 

Does that qualify as a double date?

 

That... Or a three way with a pimp as chaperone.


What do ya call an Arab with two sheep?
--- a playboy.

What do you call an Arab with just ONE sheep?
--- the groom.