what's your religion ? and why you believe it ?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by abdelatif025, Aug 26, 2011.

  1. popotalk

    popotalk Notable Member

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    #101
    These people are your 'average Jewish' US citizens and you say have no brains. "Cough" !

    Larry Ellison: Net Worth $36 Billion
    Sheldon Adelson: Net Worth $24.9 Billion
    Michael Bloomberg: Net Worth $22 Billion
    George Soros: Net Worth $20 Billion
    Sergey Brin: Net Worth $18.7 Billion
    Larry Page: Net Worth $18.7 Billion
    Mark Zuckerberg: Net Worth $17.5 Billion
    Michael Dell: Net Worth $15.9 Billion
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    Mikhail Fridman: Net Worth $13.4 Billion
    John Paulson: Net Worth $12.5 Billion
    Viktor Vekselberg: Net Worth $12.4 Billion
    Roman Abramovich: Net Worth $12.1 Billion
    Ronald Perelman: Net Worth $12 Billion
    James Simons: Net Worth $10.7 Billion


    Palestinians invented the what now the suicide vest ? LOL !
     
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  2. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #102
    I have to wonder, do facts have an anti-Arab bias?

    Average years of education by country
    Algeria 5.37
    Bahrain 6.11
    Egypt 5.51
    Jordan 6.91
    Syria 5.77
    Yemen 1.48


    Israel 9.60
    USA 12.05

    Source
     
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  3. pladecalvo

    pladecalvo Peon

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    #103
    Oh for goodness sake pooptalk! Is this the first time you've visited the planet Earth. They are not "average".

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    Your anti-arab agenda rises again.

    Still waiting for you to show me where you answered the question...WHAT WOULD YOU DO were you to ever find yourself in the same position as a Palestinian.
     
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  4. pladecalvo

    pladecalvo Peon

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    #104
    Not necessarily intelligent ...just a thief.

    "Roman Abramovich started his multi-billion-dollar business during his army service where he sold stolen gasoline to some of the commissioned officers of his unit."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Abramovich
     
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    #105
    These are not Israeli's, they are Americans, Europeans and Russians.

    And they are as much "Jewish" as Steve Jobs is Arab.

    Anyway, the richest company in the world is the Saudi Aramco. So you suckers can work as hard and as many hours as you like, you will never be as rich as the Muslims.
     
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  6. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #106
    So that is a "Yes" facts have an anti-Arab agenda? LoL. How can we fix those facts (besides educating more Arabs)? Perhaps we just need to purge facts from the internet. In the mean time, while we still have facts around, let me re-iterate.

    Israel's neighbors. Not all that bright.
     
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  7. pladecalvo

    pladecalvo Peon

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    #107
    ...and the USA is rapidly catching them up!
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/07/us-falls-in-world-education-rankings_n_793185.html

    USA. Not all that bright.
    http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/01/us/education-us-students-place-low-on-math-and-science-tests.html

    Hell man! You even came after feckin' Belgium last year!!! How embarrassing is THAT...BELGIUM! LMFAO!
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/dec/07/world-education-rankings-maths-science-reading
     
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  8. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #108

    If you don't paraphrase your links, nobody is going to bother following them to find what obscure meaning you are trying to divine from them. I'm glad to see you weren't dumb enough to try and deny those educational attainment statistics comparing Israel to her neighbors. I'll take that as a point conceded.
     
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  9. pladecalvo

    pladecalvo Peon

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    #109
    Why on Earth would I deny them? I'm not stupid enough to think that educational standards in the Middle East are as high as they are in the West - but you are clearly stupid enough to think that they should be.

    The links are clear enough. They show the poor education standards in the USA. You are in no position to condemn educational standards in other countries. How much clearer do you want it? People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Do you get it now?

    http://putourkidsfirst.com/kidsfirst/education_ratings_US.asp

    Still waiting for you to show me where you answered the question...WHAT WOULD YOU DO were you to ever find yourself in the same position as a Palestinian.
     
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  10. popotalk

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    #110
    Whatever Israel may have done, they did built an education system, including several universities benefiting Palestinian neighbors. That was the problem made since literacy in the Arab world is below 50%, in Israel it is 97%.

    In the Middle East Israel created an Arab class with democracy, literacy and with western values. Note that in Israel women can vote.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #111
    Just because you didn't like my answer does not mean I didn't answer your question. I won't waste my time linking it again, no matter how much you whine.

    Were you unaware that Israel in the Middle East? Why is it stupid to think Arab nations should have an educational standard on par with the west and/or Israel? Is it an issue of geography, finances, were you trying to imply Arabs are intellectually inferior, or is there some other root cause you have identified?


    Lets not let facts get in the way of blind hatred. They are EVIL! EVIL he tells us!
     
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  12. pladecalvo

    pladecalvo Peon

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    #112
    By your own admission...you did not answer the question. What you did was to give a tongue-in -cheek response about what you would NOT do and you admitted as much I'm asking you what you WOULD do and you will not answer (we know why). You keep claiming that you answered and, technically, you did. It's just that the answer you ave had absolutely nothing to do with what I asked you. I asked what you WOULD do not what you would NOT do. Repeatedly refusing to show the post where you claimed to have answered my question about what you WOULD do, indicates that you did not answer it and that you deliberately LIED when you said that you did.

    The same reason it's stupid to expect parts of Africa to have the same educational standards as the West or the same health standards as the West. Go figure. Start with decades of oppression. Lack of opportunity.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #113
    Oppression by whom? Israel has only been around 60 years, yet they have nearly double the average educational attainment of their neighbors. Did you really just summarize every one of Israel's neighbors as being brutal and oppressive regimes? Sounds like the first accurate thing you've put to print since you've been here.

    Are there, by chance any other things all of Israel's neighbors have in common that we could call coincidental?
     
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  14. Multiplexor

    Multiplexor Greenhorn

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    #114

    • I believe that religion is a form of control.
    • I believe that you cannot prove the existence of God or disprove it.
    • I believe that if you ask s. o. such a question, you are trying to escape the responsibility for the consequences this belief will produce.
    • Even atheists are highly religious people in terms that they do believe in God but term it coincidence, they do have their religious teaching called evolution theory or big band theory or any other theory accepted by popular science trying to describe the origins or our existence.
    • I believe that you know nothing, that all your knowledge is based upon a belief.
    • If you have free will, you do not know for fact if God exists. Because if you would there would be no free will.
    • Conclusion: do not ask anyone if God exists. It is up to you, it is your choice. It is a free choice.
     
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    pladecalvo Peon

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    #115
    Atheists are not religious. They have no belief in 'gods'.

    What is this "big band theory" that you are talking about...some kind of orchestra perhaps??

    Nope! There are many things that have objective, verifiable evidence to support them. 'Belief' is not necessary.
     
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    #116
    Wrong.
    Atheism =/= religion.
    Also, if you're an atheist you don't have to believe in evolution or the big bang theory. Nor is it
    teached to just atheists, evolution and the big bang theory is teached to almost everyone
    who goes to school nowadays if they don't specifically go to a religious school.
    Atheism is simply the lack of belief in deities or a spiritual world. I suggest you google Atheism
    and read about it before posting.
     
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  17. Multiplexor

    Multiplexor Greenhorn

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    #117
    Right. But since nature does not tolerate absence of belief it will be filled with another belief.

    Modern world offers a lot of replacements. Some people start to worship their so called subconscious mind, while missing how similar it is with God. Other start visualizing after having seen "The Secret" movie. Universe or energy become their God. But the most grounded atheist believe in science and thus in ideas like evolution theory, the strongest survives and the inescapable attributes caused by the genes.

    Like what? If you jump out of the window in 10th floor, you will probably die. But maybe you will wake up in another universe, where this life would appear as a dream where you have died :)
     
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    pladecalvo Peon

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    #118
    Right...so the objective, verifiable evidence is that you are likely to die.

    Sorry but "maybe" is not part of objective or verifiable. 'Maybe' is the 'belief' which is not supported by the objective, verifiable evidence.
     
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    #119
    Oppression by whom?
     
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    pladecalvo Peon

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    #120
    Sorry, not interested in having a discussion with someone that has proven himself to be devoid of any semblance of intellectual integrity.

    Have a nice day.
     
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