what's your religion ? and why you believe it ?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by abdelatif025, Aug 26, 2011.

  1. Mikaël2

    Mikaël2 Member

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    #81
    Too bad for the Israeli Jews eh ? Jews thought the colonization adventure would be a walk in the park. 60 years later and they still haven't managed to colonize Palestine properly. Must suck that Palestinians are not weak like the Aboriginals or the Red Indians ?
     
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    #82
    No one kicked anyone out - the Muslims were ordered out of Israel by Mohammad Amin al-Husayni, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.

    That would mean that, of all nations in the past 100 years, only the USSR was truly democratic. (It would also mean that you don't know what you're talking about.)

    Which, of course, explains the Muslim members of the Knesset.
     
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    Rukbat Well-Known Member

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    #83
    Law abiding people? Yes, it does. And eventually they'll accept that Israel is going to continue to exist, or they'll continue to throw themselves into the shredder, then complain that they're being attacked - solely because Israel exists. Not understanding reality really does suck - for those who don't understand it.

    If the Muslim states would stop attacking Israeli civilians, the war would be over in 5 seconds.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #84
    Red indians. LoL. It was discovered long ago that North America is not India, and the people there prior to European colonization were not Indians, but rather Native Americans. Books are your friends. They have all kinds of information like the fact there is no land at the North Pole.

    You are also very misguided on what the definition of weakness is. In military terms, Palestinains are like little naked babies, weak as can be. That is what you constantly cry about as you goto the UN for protection, after launching a volley of rockets into Israeli residential neighborhoods and having the Israeli military respond. You don't attack military targets specifically because you are so weak.

    Perhaps you think Palestinians are strong because they are willing to tolerate using their own children and women as human shields your combatants hide behind. Perhaps you think Palestinians are strong because they are OK with continuing to fight a war they have been losing for the last 60 years. Perhaps you think they are strong because they can go without many of the things most civilized nations take for granted after embargoes looking for weapons entering Palestine destroy Palestine's ability to import luxuries. From what I know, most of the rest of the world doesn't call that strong, they call it stupid.

    Perhaps what you meant to say is not that the Palestinians are strong, but that the Jews were not brutal like the Spaniards, English, or the rest of Europe, that decimated native populations as they colonized. Of course colonization really isn't an applicable term as the Jews have been living in the area for thousands of years, but lets not let facts fowl you up.

    Perhaps what you are getting at is that, without brutality, you and your ilk will go on into eternity killing innocent people as revenge for something that happened long before you were born.
     
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  5. Mikaël2

    Mikaël2 Member

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    #85
    This book contains all the evidence that 800,000 Palestinians were ethnically cleansed from their homeland. It doesn't cost much. I hope you can afford it.

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    Not true. In the USA, the state is owned by Americans, in Britain the state is owned by the British, In Australia the state is owned by the Australians, in Israel it is owned by the JEWS. We live in a world where racist countries like Israel are not liked very much, so keep being stupid, keep denying the indigenous Arabs of Palestine their rights, and you'll have more haters than you have now.

    I think you know very well that this conflict is far from over. I know, it sucks so much that it hasn't been so easy as you thought it was. You lost the Sinai, lost Gaza, soon will lost the West Bank, so I don't know what you mean by "throwing themselves into the shredder". The Palestinians are doing just fine. Really, it's the Israelis that should be worried about what is coming for them.
     
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  6. Rukbat

    Rukbat Well-Known Member

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    #86
    By order of the Grand Mufti of Palestine. (They weren't killed - they were just ordered to leave Israel.)

    Tell that to 99% of Americans - who don't own the state.

    Using your (brand of il)logic, that would be "the Israelis", many of whom are Muslims.

    Israel has nothing to do with Palestine - that's run by the Palestinians. If you have a problem with how Palestine is run, complain to them. Or complain to the Jordanians, since most of what once was Palestine is now the Hashemite Kingdom of Trans-Jordan. Which, BTW, NEVER allowed those displaced Palestinians in - to what was Palestine.

    I didn't lose anything - I don't live in Israel or Palestine, and have nothing to do with either one of them.

    The Palestinians keep attacking Israel, and keep getting killed for it. The more Palestinians attack Israel, the more Palestinians die. Unfortunately, unlike brave fighters, the Palestinian COWARDS use babies, children and women as shields, so they're the ones who die. And without them, eventually the only Palestinians will be the corpses (women and children - what the cowards keep sacrificing - are the future. Cowardly fighters aren't.) That's what I mean.

    Oh, you mean like what's been coming for them for the past 64 years? Cowards who couldn't win a war if there were no opposing force at all? "Palestinian armed force" isn't a phrase, it's a 3 word joke. During the '67 war, while the Israelis were romping all over the Arabs, the Egyptian tanks were bogged down in the sand. There hasn't been a single decisive battle that the Palestinians have won - in 64 years of committing suicide (which is about all they're capable of doing - unfortunately it's their women and children they're suiciding).
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #87
    I would give you 3 plusreps for this post, but unfortunately, P&R rep credit doesnt count. I think I crapped myself lauging at your last paragraph.
     
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  8. Mikaël2

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    #88
    Try reading history books instead of crap from conspiracy websites.

    What are you talking about ? All Americans own the United States of America. It is their State. Their country.

    And here I am having a conversation with an ignorant person. Please do yourself a favor and get an education. Israel is not owned by all Israeli's. It is owned exclusively by the Jews. That's why Israel is defined as a Jewish State. Just because minorities have a right to vote doesn't mean Israel a democratic state. The day Israel becomes a democratic state, that's the day when it be respected by the international community. At this point, the world hates Israel.

    Historical Palestine is from the river to the sea.

    It's called self defence. If they did not defend themselves for the last 60 years, they'd be all kicked out of their homeland. I know, it sucks that they can defend themselves.

    LOL. The Arabs have never made a real attempt to destroy Israel. Ever. It's one great myth. All wars were started by Israel and the Arabs just defend themselves from Jewish aggression. The Arabs have defended themselves quite well. The Jews only managed to capture less than 1% of Arab land.

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    Would you like to know what I mean by "what is coming for them" ? You might want to read this article:


    Existential threats to Israel.

    I don't know of any country in the world that is fighting for it's survival like Israel. It really is so sad. ​
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #89
    Thankfully they have nuclear weapons.
     
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    #90
    It's astonishing that SO many Americans can be SO uneducated on a matter of such importance.

    Here...educate yourself.

    http://www.peterloud.co.uk/palestine/
    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/israel-should-never-forget-its-mideast-atrocities-1.424506
    http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=16875
     
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    pladecalvo Peon

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    #91
    ...and what would you do if the Israeli's came and took your land and demolished your home?
     
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    #92
    And yet surrounded by wolves on all sides it can't be defeated by their armies. Funny !
     
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    #93
    Would that be similar to the Vietnam war when the Vietnamese were romping all over the US army?
     
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  14. Mikaël2

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    #94
    Israel was defeated by Hezbollah, a small militia in Lebanon. The Arabs could easily annihilate Israel with several hours, it's just that they don't want to at this time.
     
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    #95
    Nuclear weapons didn't help Israel to keep to the Sinai. Or Gaza. It's not going to help Israel keep the West Bank either. It's so sad.
     
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    #96
    Its not going to happen. The countries around Israel are not united. Syria has its own problems. Egypt don't have the muscle. Iraq , well...Jordan don't want to participate. Saudi Arabia don't have the balls for that.
     
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    Lol@ Egypt don't have the muscle. The Egyptians were beating Israel in 1973 before the USA intervened and saved Israel.

    The Jordanians have always been in bed with Israel. You are right about that one.
     
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    #98
    Well, to be honest, the neighbors are not all that bright. Loads of cash, and no brains.
     
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    #99
    Tut! Tut! Now we're getting to the crux of it. Your anti-arab agenda is showing.
     
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  20. Mikaël2

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    #100
    Israel has costed the USA $3 trillion dollars. The Arabs are simply leaving Israel there so it can cost the USA more and more and more money, every year. If you want to know who has no brains, it is these guys:

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