what's your religion ? and why you believe it ?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by abdelatif025, Aug 26, 2011.

  1. Mikaël2

    Mikaël2 Member

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    #61
    If it's a majority, the Christians and Jews would have been taken out a long time ago.
     
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    #62
    I dont believe in any form of religion and never have,what i will say is that i respect other people's beliefs in what ever religion they choose to follow but i have to admit all i ask is respect my standing or thoughts on religion in return in other words just let me get on with my life as i dont want to argue about any one's beliefs.
     
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  3. Obamanation

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    #63
    I thought you didn't consider Shia to be Muslims. In fact, you can be quoted as saying you hope Israel and Iran take each other out, hoping for the death of millions of Shia. If Shia arent Muslims, your number shrinks by quite a bit. And then there are the American Muslims to consider, who mostly consider the things you promote to be idiotic and non-Islamic.

    And yet, according to you, most Muslims do want an end to Israel, and yet Israel continues to exist and thrive. So, either your statement is incorrect and most Muslims don't care about the continuing existence of the State of Israel, or, most of the Muslims from your neck of the woods who do care are so dumb and uneducated they can't do anything to accomplish their desire to wipe Israel from the map. Which is it?

    Were you planning on answering this question:?
     
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  4. Mikaël2

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    #64
    Most informed people will want an end to the state of Israel [in its current configuration]. The end to Israel does not mean the end to Jews.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #65
    1) You don't speak for most people, or even most Muslims.

    2) If Muslims do want an end to Israel, how come they haven't already done it, as you claim they could have with 1.5 billion sharing an agenda.

    3) Were you planning on asking the question I keep asking?
    "So what punishment do you recommend for the so-called Muslims who are Hamas members launching rockets into civilian neighborhoods in Israel. Does not Islam also prohibit the killing or attempted killing of innocents?"​
     
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  6. Mikaël2

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    #66
    Most informed people will want an end to the state of Israel [in its current configuration]. Do you have a problem with this ?

    The Jews can create a homeland somewhere that is not already inhabited by others.

     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #67
    Nope. I have a problem with you claiming to speak for most informed people. Why don't you send out a list of endorsements of people who said you speak on their behalf and we can examine if they are informed or not. For all anyone can tell at the moment, that list has one name on it, and that person thinks there is land at the north pole(Perhaps the land Santa Clause lives on?). Not exactly an informed person.



     
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    #68
    Most Christians (and there are over 2 billion of them) would be opposed to that - many of them violently opposed. Are you saying that fully 1/3 of the human species are uninformed but you, who posts nonsense, are informed?
     
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    #69
    My religion is Buddhist. when i born i have Buddhist coz my family are Buddhist. and Buddhist teach us to do good things and believe in good things.
     
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  10. Mikaël2

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    #70
    If the north pole is not appealing enough to you Jews, than how about a homeland on another planet ? Maybe Pluto ?
     
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    #71
    You are batting 1000. Land at the north pole and now the "planet" of Pluto? Not exactly Bill Nye, are you. Tell us more about what evolution proposes :D.


    Were you not interested in answering any of those questions, or were they simple too tough for you. I'd figure a guy who thinks he speaks for all of Islam would know a thing or two. Guess I was wrong.



     
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  12. Mikaël2

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    #72
    Pluto is a dwarf planet. You're not a bright one are you ?
     
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    #73
    Terrific! You actually looked up and learned something new today! Now how about the North Pole. Have you figured out there is no land there yet? Still anxiously waiting on answers to the other questions.
     
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  14. Mikaël2

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    #74
    A Jewish homeland on Pluto .. what say you ?
     
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    #75
    Most people would like Israel to be a democracy and for it to respect international law. Would they not ?

    When Israel becomes a democracy and stops breaking international law, it will cease to exist.
     
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    #76
    How about a bigot homeland on Pluto? No extra air, though.

    You mean like giving the Muslim citizens of Israel - who want to kill the Jewish citizens - the right to vote? (Which they did in 1948?)

    How about some of your Muslim countries giving Jewish citizens ... oh, that's right, Jews can't be citizens in most of those countries, can they.

    What it amounts to is "you first, since Israel already did".
     
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    #77
    And I am an Atheist, tho I suppose that doesn't really count as a religion.
     
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    #78
    I say you haven't answered any of my questions. Here is another.

    Why are none of the Arab states willing to take in the Palestinians? With so much common blood and a spirit of (Muslim)brotherhood, they are treated like the red-headed step children of the middle east. Is it a personal hygiene issue? Do they bathe? Is it that their brand of terrorism doesn't jive with what is peddled in Saudi Arabia?



    Great and logical points, though I quit throwing logic at Mikael/Solar Products long ago. He simply lingers about clamoring for an end to the Jews and the rise of the Caliphate. If you ever saw Pinky and the Brain, he is a mix of the two, having the brains of Pinky and the ambition of the brain, plotting schemes from his mothers basement. [Yes I do watch way to many childrens shows]
     
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  19. Mikaël2

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    #79
    The Jews didn't mind giving voting rights to the indigenous Arab Palestinians in 1948, because they kicked out the majority of Palestinian Arabs from their homeland (They were forced to go to Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt and other Arab countries). Other's were pushed into the sea.. Voting rights for minorities is useless. Democracy is not only about voting rights. For a state to be truly democratic, all citizens must own the state. In Israel, the state is not owned by all citizens, it is owned by the Jews and only the Jews.


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    The Palestinians that were cleansed from their own homeland became refugees, and they, and their descendants still live in refugee camps. There's 7 million Palestinian refugees, every single one has a right to live in what is now Israel. Now just imagine an Israel with 7 million more Palestinians ? What kind of Israel would that be ? A non existing one ?
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #80
    1948 was 64 years ago. The people in that picture have mostly died of old age. Also, Israel has 1.5 million Arabs citizens. So try again.

    In the spirit of trying to gin up angst about something much more egregious and clear cut, imagine how the people of Pearl Harbor felt when Japan bombed them for no reason. Imagine how the people of Vietnam felt in the 60s when we napalmed and bombed the living crap out of the northern part of that nation. I chuckle imagining the stupidity of Vietnamese, Japanese, or Americans who might go about their day focused on revenge. They don't. Today, both Japan and Vietnam are huge economic partners with the US.

    Move on.
     
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