In future try to let Hbird64 post for himself since he is a member and quite capable of posting, instaed of being his voice and assume things that you have no foundation for.
LOL, and the foundation for your assumptions is ...? Is this the best you can do in your quest to be right? You asked me, I answered you, you tried to take my answer out of context and threw it back at me to prove your point, I put my answer back into its original context, now you are telling me to not answer for Hbird64. Amazing
I just told you not to make so much assumption and let Hbird64 answer for himself but obviously you have need to post about subjects that you do not know about.
Once again, I did not answer for Hbird64. I answered a question you asked me. I even stated that Hbird64 had already answered the question on who did the paid reviews, which you asked him then again asked me. The subject is about joeant's speed pass service. I posted information that came from the joeant website. What did I need to know in order to post on this subject? The information is there, all you or anyone has to do is read it.
Actually, I might ask my fellow editors if it's cool to add http://www.directorycontest.com to see how good Joe Ant really is
Why should I repeat the answers Luna has already provided? I'm a member of JoeAnt.com and Luna is also a member. I'm just a little longer a member. The discussion is about refunding or not, and not about who got paid at JoeAnt.com. But if you want that answered, okay. As far as I know, is only the owner paid. He's the sole progammer of JoeAnt.com, and also paying for the hosting and the traffic. I guess he's making good money now, after years of only paying for it. He risked his money. This counts for all directory owners. They all want to make money, and some do and others don't. I put a lot of volunteer time in JoeAnt.com, and I will keep doing that without being paid. If I didn't agree with that, I never would have become a volunteer there. Hugo
For one thing may be I wanted you to answer because your answer and luna's answer are not the same unless all the paid submissions are processed by the owner. Is this the case? If it is volunteers who process the submissions how do you insure that is done properly and impartially and what justifies keeping the money? If it is the owner, how does he handles the complains and disagreements? Does he actually answer it or is it the case of I have your money, so get lost? The problems that I see here is at least 2 people have posted that they did not get response to their emails, if this is the level of service provided then there is no justification for keeping the money for 2 minutes work which majority of directory owners do for free.
So what are you saying? All the submission are handled by the owner or do you maybe mean aliens from another planet? If this is the kind of answers people get to a simple question, no wonder that your customers are dissatisfied.
Why do you care who handles the SpeedPass submissions? Do you also care who's selling you the hamburger at the drive-in at McDonalds? I'm just saying the volunteers aren't paid, that's why they are called Volunteers. Maybe your right about the aliens from another planet? I don't know and I don't care. The owner lives in the US and I live in Europe, so I never checked. I hope your customers are happy with all your excellent questions. Hugo
If it is not the owner, what do you call non paid people who do it if not volunteers? I would definitely care who is selling the hamburger at the McDonald's drive in if the person has hepatitis. We are trying to discuss what are the procedures and if it fair to the customers but it is so hard to get a straight answer out of you, the question is why and what are you hiding?
You ask every employee there if they have hepatitis? No, you are trying to change the procedures. Did you also discuss this about the same procedure in Yahoo!? And we are not going to change them, no matter what questions you ask. You tried to submit sites with links to adult sites. We declined them, and we will keep on doing that. Hugo
No but I expect that manger in the McDonald to check if the employee has Hepatitis. The yahoo has employees and procedures in place and they are not so shy about explaining themselves. When did this turn about me, I was just trying to clarify what procedures is in place to protect customers interests. By the way you are trying to avoid all questions, involving different proxies in the discussion to support you and your personal attacks, it seems there are no clear procedures to deal with submissions or protect the customers interest and the general attitude is that once you get the money, the customer is nothing but nuisance.
There you go again, making things up as you go. The speed pass procedures are on their website. It spells out what a customer can do if they do not agree with the reason a site might have been rejected and/or what they can do to fix the problem. All you or anyone need to do is READ it. If you don't like how it's done, then don't use the service. As for who reviews the speed pass submission, I asked and was told that a, as in singular, staff member does the reviews along with the owner. None of the volunteers have access, nor can they edit any listing that came through the speed pass option. Again, no one has to use the speed pass option in order to get their site listed. If they choose to use it they have to agree with the terms. You may not like the terms but no one is forcing anyone to use it. Your supposed concerns are faulty and have no logical foundation.
For the last time. I'm not paid by JoeAnt.com! I'm just one of the many volunteer members. Everyone can become one, and submit their sites for free (as long as they are according our guidelines). Hugo
It is not you as a person, I am talking about the business. Some how you think that you and joeant are one and the same. So far, they haven't shown any better attitude than DMOZ. The correct action for any business like them would be to explain their procedures and how they work with their customers to solve the problems instead of attacking anyone and everyone and keep repeating we want to keep the money.
It doesn't matter what attitude has been shown to the outside, I can guarantee you that on the inside people are honest. There is no room for corruption there.
I have no idea about their honesty but the people who have answered for them or claim to represent the directory, definitely lack any kind of business or common sense. I am still trying to figure out what is the big secret? Why not just explain what the procedures are and how they deal with customer complaints instead of attacking everyone and anyone?