$60,000 in 6 weeks. Follow along!

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by 1EightT, Nov 11, 2006.

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  1. andre75

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    #541
    Let me put it this way. If I were in the market for SEO services right now, I would hire him. I wouldn't have to be afraid that my website would be punished by Google.
    I saw a post the other day (I believe on Aaron Walls site, not sure), about the 10 most important questions to ask from a SEO guy to make sure you get a quality service.
    Needless to say most would not pass.
    So why give money to a person who just puts up cloaked pages and spams other sites, if I can give money to someone who will work hard for my site? (Even if it were only 50% as effective, it will stick much longer than twice and thus I get more for my money).
    I also understand why everyone feels the need to throw dirt at him, since he is calling you for what you are.
     
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    #542
    You know what? I even believe you. Yessir, I do.
    But instead of working for money, I built passive revenue streams. When your site is out of the SERPS and you have to work to get another one up, mine is still making money.
    It may ramp up much slower, but so what.
    If I start in the stock market, I probably will make less money than the construction worker. But while I can grow naturally without limits, the construction worker has to come in each day to make a buck.
    For you it may be every couple of months or whatever, but you do have to start over and over again.
     
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    visio Well-Known Member

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    #543
    You obviously either have trouble reading or processing. (Pentium gots some good ones.) I told you I disagree with Matt on many things. And none of what I say comes from his blog.
     
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    #544
    I personally don't throw dirt at him because he says spammers are idiots or whatever, i'll do it because he all the time compares spammers to murderers, thiefs, scammers and a lot else things.

    because no one can seriously talk to him/with him, because he is totally ignorant.

    I let white hats or black hats do what they do, if someone does anything that i don't like AND i know him, than i can try to tell him what i think. But if someone enters a thread like this, starts immediately to compare you and ALL other thread participants with thiefs, tools, or scammers, than i dont see any reason to talk to him in normal language.
     
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    #545

    Dude, i have white hat sites, communities and all other revenue streams too. But it is fun for me PLUS you can make fast and good money. Let people decide on themselfes what they want to do.
     
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    a389951l Must Create More Content

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    #546
    Exactly :)! And without blackhatters or people who push the limits would google be as good as it is now? In every competitive industry, there are forces that make the marketplace more competitive and equal in the long run. There will always be two sides - the ying and yang. The question is how to use and learn from both to make the best long term income.
     
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  7. visio

    visio Well-Known Member

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    #547
    I am not trying to make a reputation in the Black Hat/spammer world so could care less about what you think of me. I have my reputation among the White Hat webmasters and don't need your respect because to be honest I don't think you have any.

    I am not sure why anyone is taking offense to my posts. I am only giving back all that love and care you guys put into your spamming.
     
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    #548
    I'm going to go-out on a n00b branch and ask a very basic question. Sorry if it's already been asked, but I didn't take the time to read 70+ pages of "it's spam" "it's not spam" / etc. ;)

    I just watched the demo video. The pages look like they might indeed be tasty to a SE, however, I'm wondering what would cause a human reader to actually buy anything through these pages via the affiliate link.

    Is there some kind of other way to collect the affiliate income when you build a site that very few would actually read (just judging from the site shown in the video, I'd never ever spend even 10 secs trying to read that) or ???

    This is an honest question. I'm very new to affiliate stuff and certainly don't know all of the ins and outs on how it's done. However, I must say that if I presonally ran across a site like that, the odds of me using any links to buy anything (if I clicked on anything at all) would be near zero, so there must be something I'm missing.

    Thanks,
    Mike
     
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    That's exactly what i mean, for visio it's totally personal. I bet he even would shoot us if he sees us... People like you are the dirt irl man, the world has other serious problems but your oppinnion is the only one that counts and all other that don't think like you getting dissed by you. No matter if you are a white hat in the net, irl you are nothing more than a Bh is, seriously.


    P.S @ micsaund: You can build the pages look to whatever you like, if you cloak them almost no visitor will see the real look, instead they immediately get redirected to the advertisers landing page where they can make a purchase, or not =)
     
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    visio Well-Known Member

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    Now to your question. That is why I hate black hat spammers so much because these people that buy don't know any better usually. Alot of them think the whole internet is like this and don't realize they get find another site which has some information for them. These users who buy are usually new to the internet and they get scammed by these scum and some never return. THAT is what gives the net a bad name.
     
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    #551
    No humans will ever see the pages when they are cloaked. The sample in the vide was uncloaked to show you what the search engines will see. Human visitors get taken straight to the affiliate landing page.

     
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    #552
    Harsh words. Why are you defending 1Eight. Do you personally know him or are you him under another user? If you don't you shouldn't be sticking your head out like this because you may get it chopped off.

    And almost no Google will like you either.
     
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    #553
    Yes since all people only want information, no... They aren't happy because they buyed that ipod fast and with no hassle, thay are angry because they didn't had information that kept them busy for hours before they could buy. Please dude, you may have a clue of the technical aspect but when it comes to what customers may want your ignorance stays between you and the customer...

    P.S Who will chop my head off, the strange black caped man named visio? Uhhhh

    And P.S P.S I dont defend 1Eight, i try to make clear that you man, you are the one that disses all of us without knowing us or what we do and comparin US all the time with scum and scammers.
     
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    #554
    Just a note to anyone thinking of buying the sludge. Google will ban you really fast especially the noobs so don't try it. And if you do think your getting away with it wait till your Adsense account jingles a little(sometimes they have little holes in them)
     
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    Sorry I haven't updated in a cuple days. We've had affiliate sales pretty much every day. The sites are starting to gather momentum. I have had two sales so far today alone. I haven't added anymore domains to the system either. We bought two new servers so i'll be busy getting those setup. Anyway, here are the stats.

    The software should be closed to new members by the end of the week.
     

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    #556
    Your a bigger moron than I thought. It is a proven fact that visitors who have unbiased(no sales pitch) information on a product are much happier than those who can't. And anyone who knows better despises affiliate pages.

    And show me your white hat sites. :rolleyes:
     
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    I hope your paying for the servers....
     
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    a389951l Must Create More Content

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    #558
    1EightT - just curious where you are getting your keywords to start off the domains?
     
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    Yes sure visio... What i told about you. I think like 10 pages earlier i tried to talk to you in normal, but it's not possible to do so. You are someone that is stupid and ingorant.

    If you want an better explanation of what i mean, learn german and i will be happy to tell you.


    Ah and PS: Yes (no sales pitch) THINK bfore you talk man, really. What do we do? We redirect the visitor to an landingpage of the advertiser (that has the infos) OR to an selfmade landingpage, and it's exactly what we want... to give the visitor what HE wants so we have an big conversion rate... But it's not about what YOU want/think @ visio
     
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    #560
    I use our cj scraper for the keywords and products. If i'm not doing an affiliate site I usually start with the adwords suggestion tool. There are several other resources for keyword gathering on our forum though.
     
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