LONDON - Military victory is no longer possible in Iraq, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said in a television interview broadcast Sunday. Kissinger presented a bleak vision of Iraq, saying the U.S. government must enter into dialogue with Iraq's regional neighbors — including Iran — if progress is to be made in the region. "If you mean by 'military victory' an Iraqi government that can be established and whose writ runs across the whole country, that gets the civil war under control and sectarian violence under control in a time period that the political processes of the democracies will support, I don't believe that is possible," he told the British Broadcasting Corp. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15802130/?GT1=8717 It is unbelievable that it takes so long for these men in power to understand something that any intelligent person knew 2 years ago.
What do you expect? They aren't going to admit that they are wrong, it took them 2 years to get the courage to do that.
One has to appreciate creating a strawman "If you mean by..." to make a point. This is a great example by Kissinger. It's kind of like saying: "if you mean by "gworld getting laid" that all of the world's most attractive women will suddenly come to Canada to kiss his feet and adorn him with kisses and praise of being manly, and that it will happen in a timely manner so that all the world can congratulate him at one time in a ceremony, then I don't think it will happen." Well duh, gworld won't be getting laid No offense gworld, was just pointing out how easy it is to construct such a baseless argument. The end result, of course, depends entirely on how unreasonable the qualifying conditions are.
Did anyone get what Gtech is trying to say, except that he has nothing to say but feels the need to post something since it is too hard for him to accept the reality that war is lost?
Actually the argument that you put forward illustrates an imposibility.(Even though Gworld would like to see it otherwise ) Same as Kissinger has Only difference is that Kissinger actually put forward a rational argument in contrast to your absolute irrational argument The term baseless is actually the best description of your own argument. Kissinger had actually a point unlike you who is fantasizing to try to make a point
Due to the nature of the "war" out there it's fairly obvious to all that military victory is no longer possible in Iraq. Even the Illuminati man Kissinger appears to have figured it out. Also remember that Kissinger was an architect of the Vietnam war so he's an expert on unwinnable wars.
Ah, I get it! Kind of like your baseless grenade argument when WMD were found. You went ballistic over that! I thought you were going to have a stroke. Sort of like how gworld was upset that 20 tons of chemical wmd were discovered to have come to Jordan via Iraq. I am glad you actually get it though. Kissinger's argument had at least as many qualifers as mine did. Both were baseless in their respective contexts. Well, at least Kissinger's was!
He's saying that if you put a ridiculous number of exceedingly precise conditions on anything it's easy to say it is unlikely or impossible.
You get it Gtech? Seeing your post clearly indicates not Going ballistic? Having a stroke? Once again you're imagination is doing overtime.............. You made a mistake, i corrected it for you
You were too busy: for corrections. Have you gotten over it yet? I remember you were terribly distraught.
Why do you think they want to win? It's not winning that brings profit, it's fighting. In any case, these war industry thugs are very powerful. Thanks God they are on ours side.
Illuminati...lmao. You're a very conspiracy driven person? Kissinger is like the pot talking about the kettle. Who cares what he thinks!? His sort of policies have done wonders for central and south america!? *sarcasm* I will say one thing, though....winning wars in manner of creating a vacuum in countries like Vietnam...is incredibly hard. One wonders why America has made policy choses as early as JFK to do things like this.