$60,000 in 6 weeks. Follow along!

Brad Callen has a reputation something you lack. He doesn't sell crap and he isn't a creapy moron spamming peoples sites. He knows seo something you will never learn. BTW it was Fallon not Callen. Get your facts straight. They are TWO different guys - Just proves your ignorance.

That my friend is were your wrong. It is between the honest and the lazy fools. WE(the honest webmasters) have to clean up after this lazy filth runs through our sites. No my friend when I have to deal with it that is my war.

Dirt knows no better

Good idea! Where did we leave off??? ...ohh yeah we were throwing mud at webmasters to make money.. where have I been?


First of all thanks to all the low-life for the red rep(thanks for the green too ). It doesn't hurt me. I am not on DP to get green rep. I already have a reputation and a bunch of red rep on DP won't effect that.

Secondly how low are some of you. Lets say I was a low-crawling buzzard like you and decided to create a app that clicked adsense and was undetectable by google. How many low-life out there would use it? I am sure ALL of you defending 1eight would even though it would be stealing money. And to those who say they wouldn't. Your lieing because you are stealing when you use this rats program. He is STEALING our money by wasting our time with his spam. Ohh and congratz on the Digg level

 

lol , its funny when people get upset about spam

 

Its funnier when THEY get spammed

 

You need to get a girlfriend visio, you spend way too much time thinking about this stuff. If you get spam on your blog it takes 5 seconds to delete it, that's not comparable to cheating AdSense. Furthermore, if you leave blog comments open to people they have done nothing wrong by leaving a linkback to their website. If you don't like the comment you remove it, simple. You're making this out to be something way worse then it is, and it's very funny. I find it especially funny how you keep labeling it theft, there's no theft here. It's blackhat, no one is being robbed. If your website is losing customers because of a blackhat program that means you need to work harder, or become blackhat yourself. It's a competition, or a game, and if you can't compete you need to change what you're doing instead of crying like a little baby. Or maybe you're just crying for cryings sake, which is even more pathetic. You don't like what other people are doing with their money and time? Boo-hoo baby, learn to deal.

 

Its the same line of argument that gave a burglar right who tried to brake into someones house and broke his legs. He sued the homeowner and won (true story). What a moronic world.
Many years ago, in the city I grew up we didn't even lock our doors. Didn't have to. These days its your own fault if you don't have a gun around and shoot the sucker down. Why? Well self defense means you dont get any blame, but if you let the idiot live he is going to sue you (In many states you can shoot in self defense and don't have to proof much if someone is on your property).
So whats the result of this kind of thinking? People shoot first, just in case.
Just because I have comments enabled doesn't mean I want the idiots come and spam my sites.
If someone steals my car I guess its my fault too for not having wired it with high voltage?

 

Yeah, I don't really see how you can compare blog spam to burglary and assault. Way to blow it out of proportion. On the off chance your blog is spammed you delete the message. It's that simple.

Coming here to complain about it doesn't stop it from happening, but I guess you have the right to spam a spammer. I just think you look like a baby while doing it.

 

Just wait till one of these suckers hits your sites. I take it you don't get much traffic or you would get aspam like the rest of us. NOTHING can prevent it. They find ways of getting in no matter what you do.

 

I actually have websites that get upwards of 20k uniques a day, but I don't have comment posting on my sites. My email gets spammed a lot though, I just delete it and forget about it.

 

Just in case your curious criminals act the same way you do. They think it isn't a big deal to steal something and then eventually find killing not so bad.

 

Interesting....

 

Whatever you say man, lol. I'm sure criminals pay their taxes and have a loving family too. I guess this is how a criminal is born, first blog spam, then burglary, then finally murder!

 

Spamming is wrong, stealing is wrong, murder is wrong. One wrong just because it is small doesn't make it right. Of course murder is a higher offense and should be punnished as such. But there is no excuse for spamming either.

 

It's a competition, you do what you can to win within the bounds of the law. Some people don't see it that way, but a lot of people do. If you really have a problem with it you gotta do your best to prevent it, what else can I say. You might not like it, but that's life man. Don't think I don't understand where you're coming from man, I do.

 

blog spamming is like murder by toenail clippers

 

Well I don't think you do. I don't consider this a push-law thing. Just because there is no law against it doesn't mean it is okay to do. There is no law(that I know of) that says I can't drive a 500 ton truck through your wet lawn but it isn't right. There is no law that says I can't move in next door to you and have parties everynight with loud music and have a ruckus but does that make it right? It would be like you buying a used swimming pool. And I come over in the night and poke holes in it. Why do i do that because i know there is a bet on it saying that it will never hold water. I think I can get some $$$ buying washing you out. See my point? Ohh yeah but that would be destruction of property. Google is property and so are sites. Use your head....

 

Yeah, that's destruction of property. Google is a service that indexes your websites, what you do with them is your business, not Googles. What I mean is you're free to do anything to your websites as long as it's not illegal, using blackhat SEO methods is not illegal. Posting comments, or spam, in blogs is not illegal when you're given the option to post. So it comes down to morals, some people see it wrong to do that, some people don't. You obviously have a problem with it, that's fine. I understand where you're coming from, that's what I meant when I said it before, I understand the reasoning behind what you're trying to articulate. I just think it's pointless crying about it, it's going to happen either way.

 

Visio, I appreciate your stance on this, but if you really want to make a difference the search engines need to change their ranking methods. As long as they rely on backlinks and on page seo, we will find ways to use tit to our advantage. Look at the number of large corporate sites that have been outed for cloaking in recent months. It's an unfair and unleveled playing field created by the search engines and their monopoly on the market.

 

1EightT: I have no propblem with you gaming Google and for all I care Google is scraping sites (Google News) themselves. So for what it matters, I don't give a damn if someone syndicates my RSS feeds on their site without asking.
You can game Google as much as you want and I wont even bother. I have a very large percentage of visitors being return visitors, something a spam site can only dream of.

However coming back to destruction of property. If someone smears on my website with their spam it is destruction of my online real estate. For once Google takes a close look at who you are linking to and devalues your site.
This means for you to make profit you actually take it from me, since google will re-evaluate my site for this.
Secondly time is money. I am forced to administer comments, and even with bot defying scripts, some percentage gets through (so I can't have it on auto). This is time consuming.
Checksum: You seem to have a lot of time. Let me guess: College Kid
Some of us may have better things to do with our time than deleting spam messages.
So basically if I smear your C6 Corvette with my URL I don't really destroy it, but it looks different and it may not be what you wanted. So would you get upset or would you just go ahead and re-paint it, just for me to come again and smear it.

1EightT:You are correct. Google is inviting you to do what you do. Some take the invitation some don't. As I said, I don't care if you do, as long as you don't do it by spamming my site.

 

I wish I had a C6.
And of course I would be upset.

The difference here is that one is destruction of property and the other is a spam message in an open comment box. I don't want to argue any more about this though, we have different points of view on this, lets just leave it at that.

 

Ouch, why do you have to attack the corvette?

I think you and I are at least near a common middle ground. There are definitely people that take things to far on both sides. People have suggested we exploit xss vulnerabilities which I refuse to do. Our trackback system seeks out blogs related to the keyword and checks to make sure the link hasn't been posted before so it isn't as bad as these mass spammers that drop 1000 viagra links on your blog daily. There are ways to rank well in the search engines using automated methods while still being within the bounds of decency. Of course this line is different for everyone. If this software is across the line for someone I suggest they don't use it.