Am I being realistic here?

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  1. PhoenixDragon

    PhoenixDragon Peon

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    #21
    lol! enough woman.. If anyone were interested in your incessant ramblings they would visit the nearest AA meeting.No, I don't expect to rank anywhere close to the term recipe anytime in the future. I do however expect some great results on long tails like I explained with the "Button Ham Buscuits Recipe" example. A 30 day old site with 52 backlinks (per Google Webmasters tools) must be doing something right. And no, I don't buy links simply because I don't have the money for it.Yes, I do understand my math is way off, I should concentrate on adding more volume as has been pointed above already.Just because you got rubbed the wrong way by the penguin, panda or whatever exotic animal happens to walk through the door next, does not mean that would happen to everyone. If that were true, every search should return a major corps website. And for the last time enough with the celeb references, it makes me feel like strangling that poor kitty.You use the word "Fact" a lot but the "Fact" is all you have talked about is how Google is in bed with every major corp in the states. Get your head out of the sand.I can run a 100 different searches on G and use big brand names in the search terms and I am positive the first 10 will contain links to sites which are not owned by a multinational.
     
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    #22
    yes you are being realistic here.
     
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    #23
    A recipe web site... IMHO, it's a complete waste of your time. There are already huge web sites out there with the sole purpose of offering recipes and even sharing recipes via a social environment. Aside from the large web sites there are thousands and thousands of web sites offering recipes (that they collected over the internet) for years that are already ranked. You're going to build a smaller scale brand new web site and do what medium web sites have been TRYING to do for a decade?

    Here's the realistic math...

    You have 300 recipes.. You start adding 10 a day. You burn yourself out. A month later you have 0 traffic and you want to give up but you keep going. Finally you have 800 recipes and google indexes your site. But only 100 pages are indexed. 75% of your pages noone ever finds. 25 of your pages receive 10 visits a month. Out of 250 UV 0.025% click. About 6 a month. And since it's a freaking recipe web site the ads are only cheap recipe/cooking ads paying $.12/click. You make $.72 a month.

    Let's say you are really determined.. and you keep going. Congrats now you have 10,000 UV/month and you are making $40/month.

    The idea is NOT original and has been done thousands of times. Quit or come up with an original idea.
     
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  4. PhoenixDragon

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    #24
    Another incessant rambler.. they just keep tumbling in don't they!Here are the fact: 380/400 pages indexed. Site age : 40 days. Site marketing : Social Networking (RT are 4 times what I tweet and that too from food bloggers). Backlinks: 52 (not a single is paid, cannot aford it). Average CPC : multiple what you have by 4. UVA last month: 4000 when the site had a puny number of pages.You simply have no idea what you are talking about. I have just one takeaway from this thread, if you are successful, keep you pie hole shut.When was the last time you heard the rich wall st guy give away his secret? Never. How many times have you heard frustrated and unsucessful rants? Every friggin day!
     
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    #25
    Not rambling. It's a realistic fact. I've been in this game since 1995. I've had successful websites and far more failing sites. I'm telling you, you are trying to reinvent the wheel. You aren't offering anything out of the ordinary. There are huge sites ALREADY dominating the niche and thousands of smaller sites that are already established.

    What I'm telling you is you need a more UNIQUE idea to offer recipes. Otherwise, noone will ever find you or revisit your site. That's a fact when you are going in to a overly saturated market. And judging by your original post in this thread you don't have the slightest realistic expectation of what you are in for. I am educating you.
     
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    #26
    I'm going to slap you in the face with a big piece of ham.
    Remember when I said that I was targeting a 5million searched keyword and yours is 101million. That site I was targeting for has over 25,000 directly related backlinks. TV shows sourced it, Museums, Universities, etc. If I'm in 90th place or something like that then you will need to make sure your site is not only 90th times better but add 20X to that because that keyword is ridiculous.
    Concentrating on volume is pointless. LOOK, Internet movie database is ranking in like 3rd for TV shows that have been cancelled for a decade over sites that are regularly updated daily.
    You don't understand this?
    It did happen to everyone.....everyone who is trying to rank for a highly competitive keyword. And YES, every search does return a major corporation.
    For someone who wants the keyword recipe you gotta be blind. Wikipedia, canadaliving, dictionary, ctv, bettycrocker, ifoodtv, foodnetwork, etc. LOL, That is full of stupid search results. Dictionary.....seriously.......


    And what's with this TWEET thing. Twitter does barely anything. I have like 40K real subscribers and get around 1K UV per month from that. 1UV per month is a waste of time.
     
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    #27
    And by the way you won't have Adsense for long. You are violating the rules. You are not allowed to have any other automatic contextual advertising on the same page as an adsense ad.

    You sure are starting off on the wrong foot. Maybe you should listen to others.
     
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    #28
    He doesn't understand anything apparently.

    And having a foreign .in domain is NOT going to help you rank. He doesn't understand that if his goal is to rank well for a single word major keyword in an overly saturated niche he is going to waste his time and money.

    I've seen his web site and he just doesn't get it. The wheel is round...you can't make it any rounder. This is at best a housewife hobby and will never become profitable.
     
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    #30
    Makes no sense explaining this to someone who doesn't understand the difference between fact and truth.

    Hey, all you guys with the "can't, don't, won't" vocabulary, like you Lacey girl. Suggest a keyword that you would like me to rank high for within the next year. :rolleyes:
     
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    #31


    bugger off.. you have nothing to offer but bitterness... and I'm not buying any of that
     
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    #32
    wow... random ramblish of loosers and burnouts
     
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    #33
    You daft woman.. why are you talking abour Google and SERP if you don't have any confidence in it? As far as tweets are concerned, Google indexes Tweets and uses that in ranking. My posts which have higher tweets gets indexed quicker... you deserve to be in a damn museum with the rest of your dinos.Slap me in the face with a ham? come near me with that ham and see when I magically made it dissapear ;-)
     
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    #34
    You aren't reading anything that I'm writing. So I'm going to explain it to you in a way that my 6 year old son would understand.

    The mall is HUGE and if you roam off Mommy won't find you. You are dressed like all the other kids. Wear something unique so Mommy can easily find you.

    Your website is NOT unique. It will have the same content as thousands of other websites. Your website will NOT get indexed in Google to rank well. It's too new and the market is overly saturated. You need to come up with a more clever web site and approach to stand out. Then WHEN people find you they will be more inclined to visit your website again in the future. If your website is NOT unique they will just go to the website that has 50,000 recipes owned by Martha Stewart on page 1 of googles results.

    I am offering you advice. You are just too ignorant to catch on.

    Your BS math hinted at making $7k/month as soon as your site gets indexed. I'm TELLING you that all your pages will NOT be indexed and you will find that you will only be making a couple dollars a month with your quest.
     
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    #35
    You're just ridiculous. Isn't the title of this thread "Am I being realistic here?"... and anyone who disagrees with you is a "looser" or burnout. Were we suppose to just agree with you? It's obvious you have no idea what you are doing. And we are just trying to guide you in the right direction. You can take the advice with a grain of salt. But don't insult those who are trying to help you....after all you asked for the opinion of others.
     
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    #36
    Maybe you should ask your son to explain what it means when tells you to bugger off with your pessimistic advise! I DON'T WANT IT. Period.
     
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    #37
    Read before you answer.You talk of 3rd party ads on adsense pages will get me banner. Google explicitely says its allowed.You talk of not being indexes, 90% of my site already is.You are a relic and I don't want your advise.
     
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    #38
    If you don't think I made a valid point...you clearly are your own worse enemy and will not succeed in this field. Only those who are willing to learn from others and constantly seek to learn something everyday are those who succeed.

    Just because I like being a broken record and drilling it in to newbies heads I'm going to paraphrase what I already paraphrased. I think you are starting to get it. You have thousands of competitors with the same content as you. The only difference is...they have MORE and have been established for years.. you are new and have less but offer nothing unique in comparison. You need to come up with a more unique idea to showcase the recipes and market your site otherwise you won't be found and will waste a lot of time trying to reinvent the wheel. The wheel is round..you cannot make it any rounder.
     
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    #39
    It will. You can have ads that YOU sell on your website with adsense. But you cannot have any ads that are formatted similar to adsense ads or even perform like adsense.. Including contextual advertising ads. You can be banned for it. Others have in the past. Browse through this forum. Why take the risk? Once your banned your site is DONE with Adsense

    I'm not a relic. I'm giving valid advice. You are just offended because I strongly believe your "idea" has been done so many times in the past the market is NOT profitable. Did you ever take a minute to think the ONLY way you can turn a profit is with high volume of traffic? And your marketing plan to receive high volume of traffic is to get indexed in google and cross your fingers. It's very poor.
     
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    #40
    Your positivity is pissing me off! lol:p
    When you were a child and your teacher told you that you can achieve anything you put your mind to, she was lying. Realistically speaking there is money limits, skills limits, logical limits, etc.
    Heck, since your into the "you can do anything" train of thought I want you to transport from China to Canada within 3seconds. Hey.......Don't be the "can't, don't, and won't" person!:eek:
     
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