yeah, we probably missed the few uppercuts by the copper. the uni student was probably experiencing some meth psychosis and was on some violent rage.
The guy should have just gotten the ID, or chose to leave. Had it coming to him trying to cause a scene. When it's late in a town like LA the cops don't ask to see ID for their own health, they're doing it because it's their job and they know there are people hanging around where they shouldn't be. I bet the kid knows better know.
Weapon? The kid was in handcuffs against a wall before the multiple tazings began. How can he get a weapon when he is cuffed? That means the cop didn't do his job in checking the "suspect" when cuffing him.
He was in the process of leaving, but the cops just stopped him and "grabbed his arm," this is when he says get your hands off me. But think about it, tazing the guy once, ok, twice, your pushing it. But he got tazed how many times 4-5 times? Do you really expect him to spring up when your screaming at him to stand up? I'd imagine being tazed that many times can do some serious damage.
If a cop stops you and grabs your arm to escort you out of a building you go with him, you don't stop moving and yell at the cop. The man was being unreasonable and got what was coming to him. I'm not going to disagree that tazing is barbaric in the situation, but if the guy had simply listened to the cops when they asked him to leave he wouldn't be in that situation. A cops duty is to carry out the law and in this case they were doing exactly that. If you are using the student library late at night you have to have ID with you, if you don't you're asked to leave and go get your ID, if you're dumb enough to refuse you are escorted out by cops, if you are dumb enough to struggle on the way out you are removed by force. The cops were within their rights, they did nothing wrong. Furthermore, it's not your right to stop a cop from preforming his duty when you think he's done something wrong, that's up to a judge and jury to decide. If you think a cop is doing something outside of his jurisdiction you take him to court, you don't stop him from doing his job and yell at him.
In the eyes of the law they were acting appropriate, which I believe is what people are concerned about, whether or not this was lawful. And it was lawful, if you refuse to cooperate with a police officer you can be removed by force, and if they choose to do so they are protected under the law. I see where you're coming from though, and I agree that it was unnecessary.
Dcristo if this kid did have a gun and the cops never used force and pulled out his gun and shot them aswell as whoever else everyone would be saying how poor the police where etc. Police are allowed to use force and everyone knows that so that guy shouldnt bitch when they do use force.
So just because you tell a cop to get his hands off you he is allowed to use his taser on you multiple times, while your already in hand-cuffs? He is allowed to use his taser, watch you drop to the floor then scream at you to get up or he is going to use the taser again? Multiple times?
The guy was already in cuffs when he was tased this many times. I would imagine it's the cops fault for not "searching" the guy after cuffing him to make sure it's safe. Don't you?
I am sure what the video doesnt show is that while the kid is SCREAMING for the cops to get their hands off, he is also violently thrashing his arms around. They were in a large group of people and did what they had to do to control the situation.
Understandable and since it's not in the video lets assume that is true. He was moving his arm around. That justifies the first incidence. What about the 3rd, 4th, 5th tasing that IS on the video while the kid is just on the floor not able to get up? How do you justify that BTW, i'm not arguing just trying to get some answers.
Lol. Yes, if you resist a cop you get whatever is coming to you. Cops control the situation, that is there job, if you resist you get put in place. You already got your answers, you're just upset about the whole thing. I'll make it clear though, if you resist a cop you get tazered. Zap zap.
So basically if your already neautralized and on the floor, you think it's ok to keeping "zapping" you? You've been "zapped" multiple times, but it's ok for a cop to scream in your face to stand up, (I'm assuming after being "zapped" 3-4 times , it's hard to stand up) and after you don't stand up he keeps "zapping you." Where is the resisting there that justifies being hit with it so many times?
You do realize that the guy was asked to produce his id card... Didn't... Was asked to leave... Didn't....The cops were called... Then he got tazed... Was asked to stand up to be escorted out (they probably were pretty sure he wasn't a ucla student b/c he was acting so irrational).... Didn't... tazed again... stand up... didn't... Oh and fyi... There are no long term side effects of being tazed (unless you have a pacemaker). If he had wanted to, he could have stood up... Most likely he couldn't afford school and needed to find someone to sue.
I really hate when police is abusing power. Where do we live? North Korea? But, what I don't get is why wouldn't the kid just comply? or if he isn't able to move or get up, why not tell the officer that he is NOT ABLE TO (as opposed to DON'T WANNA TO) get up?
Ya about him being in handcuffs when he was tazed, I don't think he was handcuffed until after he was tazed the first or second time. The cops would not have "just handcuffed" him while escorting him out, the kid wwas pissed he was being forced to leave and wanted to make a scene because a cop touched him, he then probably touched a cop, got tazed and hand cuffed, and was being taken in for trespassing and assault. Kid should have gotten tazed 2 - 3 more times for being such a baby in the first place. The college students are acting as they are towards the cops because they want something to get riled up about, the youth in America notoriously hate the police, and they are using that latent hate against the police to make the scene very confrontational. The people who were told to stand back or get tazed were up in the Police officers faces and screaming at them. I dislike the police as much as the next college student, but I honestly feel that these police officers were within the law. I've had my license suspended, numerous BS tickets, and feel that these young people were just trying to stand up for one of their own and bring the police down because they felt violated by them being on their campus. I really hope these rich punks are told to quit crying and go suck on their moms tits some more. He screamed like a girl when he got tazed also.... he reminds me of this kid http://youtube.com/watch?v=zG7EsJzZ0DU Most people wouldn't scream like a girl when shot with a paintball gun, just as most people wouldn't cry and scream like a girl when shot with a tazer.
First of all, I am disgusted at the lack of humanity demonstrated on this forum. Some individuals have stood up and said it was wrong, and others are acting as apologists for what is clearly police brutality. The individual that was assaulted by the police is muslim. Clearly, racial profiling played a role in the campus security first approaching Mr. Tabatabainejad. The spot checks for I.D. after 11:00pm are allegedly random. In a library with a majority of white people and a muslim man is singled out and asked for id? The chances are slim that is random. Also, if a white male was approached, and did not have i.d., security would have most likely reminded him to have it on him at all times. Racism is systematic in any security and or policing service. The reason for these spot checks is allegedly to provide security for students. Clearly as the video demonstrates the students were the victims of their protectors. Mr. Tabatabainejad was most likely working on assignments or reading when he was intially approached. He said he didnt have i.d. and wanted to leave. I would have refused myself, however, being a white male, chances are i would have gotten away with it. The act of bringing police is a clear form of intimidation. If Mr Tabatabainejad was leaving when police came onto the scene then that should have been the end of it. It is clear that police escalated the situation by grabbing Mr Tabatabainejad. He asked for the officers to let him go as anyone would do. There was no criminal offense here. Simply a student without ID being forced from the library. If you polled all the students in the library at the time, he was not the only person without id. Police over-reacted. The individual said he had a medical condition, at that point he should have never been tasered. Even if people lie about that stuff, police should take the side of caution. People HAVE died from tasers. Mr Tabatabainejad has the right to go limp. Officers then must drag the arrestee. I know because ive gone limp before too. I wasnt yelled at and told to stand up, and tased 4 times. I was asked to walk once, and then dragged to the vehicle. After being tased once, the officers should have god damn realized that he is immobilized and shouldnt be forced to walk. This is not an isolated incident. Security services and police act in bad faith around the country and the world. "As the student and the officers were struggling, bystanders repeatedly asked the police officers to stop, and at one point officers told the gathered crowd to stand back and threatened to use a Taser on anyone who got too close. Laila Gordy, a fourth-year economics student who was present in the library during the incident, said police officers threatened to shoot her with a Taser when she asked an officer for his name and his badge number. " Need I say more? The police are forced to give badge numbers so they dont have to tell their names. It protects them and still provides a small level of accountability to the public. As for the students at the scene, well you did a good job. You made your presence known, and were loud and vocal that you wanted it to stop. Having that support probably meant alot to mr Tabatabainejad. You see a cop doing this, and you think i must stop him, he will kill that person. But you will be arrested for assault police officer and have to go through court, whether it is justified or not. The court system is not in your favour. They will try to side with police every time. But, you feel like you need to do more in those situations. But when you are being threatened with trigger-happy scumbags like those officers, you are at a large power-disadvantage. The officers were clearly stressed. They are lucky a fucking riot didnt break out. Hell, when police did that in france, france burned for a month? resist. refuse. revolt.