UCLA Student - Taser

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by NaSh123, Nov 16, 2006.

  1. #1
    What are your opinions on the following video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3GstYOIc0I

    I myself am a UCLA student. I wasn't at school when they occured so I don't know the story 100% but apparently this kid was leaving the library as he didn't have his school ID and you have to have it during late hours. While leaving the UCPD stopped him, held his arm (when he screams get your hands off me) and well you can read the rest. I'm not 100% on this as I wasn't there but if you read the notes for the video thats what it says.

    I'd like anyone to share their opinions as I am disgusted by this. I hope this matter is investigated and whoever needs to be is punished.
     
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  2. gillian irvine

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    Shocking. Disturbing. That's all I can say about that!
     
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  3. craiger22

    craiger22 Well-Known Member

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    It seems to me like he is resisting arrest. He is screaming for them to get off him and just plain not cooperating. Maybe I don't know the whole store but it seems pretty strait foreward to me.
     
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  4. NaSh123

    NaSh123 Peon

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    To my understanding from reading the comments and the story when you click on "More" at YouTube. He was already on his way out leaving the area when they just grabbed him by the arm.
     
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  5. craiger22

    craiger22 Well-Known Member

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    Ok so they grabbed him by the arm, perhaps they wanted him to wait and he didnt. Ok a little power abuse, but the kid continued to not cooperate. According to NaSH123 the cops grabbing his arm was what caused him to shout "Get off me". He was obviously resisting.
     
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  6. fordP

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    He RAN. Resisting arrest is a felony in America (1 year in prison if your not lucky). You can't just run from the cops. All Americans wrote these laws. If he would have not run and would have just talked to the Police, they would have had him prove he had a student ID and let him go. He struggled with the police and had he just let them pick him up instead of struggling with them, he would have had it a lot easier on him. Everything he was doing is resisting arrest. He didn't want to go with them so he tried to sit on the ground and knock their hands away from him. That's assault.

    I don't see anything wrong with what they did, maybe the second and third taser were a little much, they should have realised he was a sheltered little punk who thought he could whine and cry his way out of getting arrested. They tasered him because they didn't know if he had a weapon on him, and any moment in the struggle he could have pulled out a knife and harmed a police officer. It was just a taser, he wasn't shot and killed.

    I would take a taser in a situation like that any day, for my own stupidity, and if allowing cops to taser people saves their lives but inconviences me for 30 minutes, than I'm all for it.
     
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    #7
    he risisted.
    He fought the law and the law won.

     
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    I don't know the exact details, but from what's seen there, I just see a kid that wouldn't comply. Once you're in trouble, follow and obey....if you do, atleast you can sue, but if you don't,...you're making your image poor.

    The law has to have some relative power to assert authority. If they have some valid reason to bring this kid in, they have rightful authority to use appropriate force...that involves warning the person of what will happen, and given a decent amount of time to comply. *shrug*

    I find it funny how they kid mentions the patriot act. What the Fuck did that have to do with anything?
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #9
    I haven't followed the links but it's a YouTube? Sounds to me like the cop was set up.

    We have reports on the news alot about high school kids videoing brawls and bragging on YouTube. Sounds like the same deal.

    As for the taser, we've just got them here. I'd far rather my kid was tasered than punched in the face (as per another recent news article) or shot.
     
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  10. craiger22

    craiger22 Well-Known Member

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    You would think after the first couple of taser stings the kid would have gotten the point. But he still refused to comply. You can't just whine and skirt the law.
     
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  11. NaSh123

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    #11
    To my understanding...he was already leaving before all this even started so it was something that shouldn't have happened. Furthermore how do you expect someone to stand up after he has been tased 4-5 times? From reading online I've seen that someone being tased that many times is pretty incapable of movement for a good 5-15 minutes, yet they keep screaming at him to stand up or get tased?

    Furthermore, threatening to taser people asking for the cops name and badge number is wrong I think as well.

    Here is an article I found:

    http://www.dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?ID=38958
     
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    Thats crazy getting hit with that amount of volts feels like youve been punched in the face a hundred times. I havent been tasered but ive had a nasty electric shock and its more like being hit with a brick.
    Anyone whos had a few fights here and there knows a punch isnt so bad and mostly due to your adrenaline you dont feel much untill much after. Not to mention some people can die from a taser where as not many would from a punch.
     
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    It wouldn't take even one for me to comply. Only a dumbass fights the law.
     
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    Aaah, right. We've had a clip on the news of some american cops "punching" a guy they held down on the ground. Sounds like the police force still have some "issues" with force.
     
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    #15

    Ive been tasered before (not by the cops but by my friends) It honestly doesnt hurt that bad for the first like 10 seconds, then it gets worse and worse. Its obious this kid was trying to make a point and I have some sympathy because maybe he couldnt get up after he was tasered but this is what happens when you resist.
     
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  16. dcristo

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    #16
    Another cop on a power trip.
     
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    What don't you people get. The kid was not complying, so what if he was leaving, there was obviously some business the cops still needed to attend to. That is like saying if I were trespassing it is ok because I am leaving. Yes tasers hurt, I have been shot by one, and it would only take once for me to comply. It takes some intense will power to lay there and take it that many times without deciding, "hey, maybe I should just follow the law and do as I am told."
     
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    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #18
    Are you trying to tell me that cop couldn't use there own force with the help of the other cops to get things under control? Tasers should only be used when there is a threat to them! It's a uni student for crying out loud.
     
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    You don't understand, the kid was resisting them. For all they know he could have had a weapon and used it against them. What you probably don't see in the video is the student whinning and crying and swinging his arms wildly, and hitting a police officer on accident. From the way he is behaving before he is tasered, it is obvious he had it coming. He is screaming at the police for holding his arm while they escourted him out. It sounds like he is high or on some sort of drug, or not mentally stable. I'm going to go with him not being mentally stable.
     
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  20. craiger22

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    well said, this video is very vague, much can be missed/
     
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