Some questions about SEO

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Ibanez, Oct 30, 2006.

  1. #1
    Ok, so I purchased hosting plan and all that good stuff and put up my site with content (continually working on that). But I have some questions.

    I understand keywords have relation to ranking. I tried to incorporate them without spamming it up. I understand that I need backlink from other sites too.

    The thing is the like top three results for my niche are almost just link sites. Well, one is just a niche site and the other one has very little content in regards to what I have. My question for this is how long would I have to wait for my site to proceed up in the ranks to get to the top? Is this mainly dependent on the how many backlinks I can accumulate and the content? I actually already submitted my site to the link one so that should boost my value once it's on the site correct?

    What meta tags are necessary? I have description, but it seems there is conflicting information on whether keywords are necessary at all?

    I feel there is huge potential for my site to become an “authority” on my niche, so I’m just wondering what methods will enable me to take advantage of this opportunity. Take care.
     
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  2. mad4

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    The meta keywords tag doesn't do anything but its worthwhile including just in case. The meta description is important.

    The key for a new site is to build good quality links. If you go and submit to 100 directorys and get loads of sitewide & reciprocal links too quickly you can destroy the site for ever.

    Concentrate on getting bloggers to write about your site and submit to dmoz, yahoo directory, business.com
     
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  3. BILZ

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    For a new site - you ususally arent going to see any results in google for at least the first 6 months.
     
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  4. Ibanez

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    yeah, the only directory I did submit to is DMOZ. I only have my link out to maybe like 3 sites.

    Yeah, the only thing is my niche is relatively small. Granted the sport is growing more and more popular each year.

    Yeah, the good news is I am in google...I'm just result number 1.2million.

    Oh, on the meta description is their anything really important I should know that will help my site stand out?
     
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  5. mad4

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    If your niche is small you really need to start a blog and get loads of good content on the site.
     
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    kausik Active Member

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    Many time sin this forum this question has been asked :)

    For search engine ranking a domain's age is very important factor. After that site's on page optimization, then off page optimization. Those sites which you are saying junk is surely very old atleast 6-7 years so they are at top. In this time period they must have gathered considerable number of back links too. Not to mention when they are for 5-6 years around they must be serious about their business so on page optimization they have also done.

    Now seee where you stands. in every aspect you are behind them. You are younger than them, less links. About On page optimization you can be superior. But fact is now a days there are numerous SEo companies are there and seo tool also. So almost every body know about on page optimization little bit. So search engiones now a days give more value to off page factors (linking whioch needs much efforts.) many back links means you must have given much efforts to your site. And it suggest that you are serious about your site. With good number of back links when your domain passes 2-3 years then you can expect higher serp in almost every search engines. HJope this would help. :)
     
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    I have to concur with Kausik. Age has a lot to do with rank. In addition, you need to work a little with reputation through forum posting, groups, and setting up a blog where people can hear more about your niche in a more personal manner. Some folks love blogs and trust them more than a business site.
     
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  8. Ibanez

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    Off page optimization? Yeah, they have a lot of backlinks, but I wouldn't say there were serious about their optimization.

    Oh, also how long does it take a subdomain to get indexed? Roughly double a domain?
     
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    There are ways of for going the 6moths probation also called the google sandbox.Any way i think it is not worth then to start a ecomerce site for example and wait for 6 months to start selling.There are a lot of tips on increasing web traffic to a new site.Check my blog on how to get listed for free. trafficunlimited.blogspot.com
     
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  10. disgust

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    as I've said here a number of times, you do not automatically get out of the sandbox after a period of time. you can wait years and still be sandboxed.

    you're going to be facing the sandbox filters until you've acquired enough trust to convince google you don't need to be facing said filters. time does not (directly) have anything to do with it.
     
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  11. visio

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    I agree. The sandbox can be 1month to over a yr. The easiest way to get out is by building backlinks..

    Your site is new so be patient and build backlinks from relevant sites. Don't worry about on-site seo such as keywords and that nonesense. Write your meta tags for your visitors so that they are relevant and tell exactly what the site is about. Write the pages so that they are useful to the VISITOR not GOOGLE.
     
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  12. disgust

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    on new domains, honestly, I would not even go on traditional link building campaigns. you need to get the "I need as many links as I can" mentality out of your head if you're playing with a new domain that has to deal with the sandbox. you need to be very, very careful with incoming links when it comes to gaining enough trust with google to bypass the sandbox filters.
     
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    I think I agree - I don't think building links to fast can hurt you but I do see your point. I myself have stopped link building. I don't build links, request links etc etc. I just wait for happy blog-readers to link to me and they do. Another thing is don't use duplicate content just so there is content. write unique content and google will love you.
     
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    I'm definitely of the opinion acquiring too many links too fast, or any other "unnatural" development of incoming links, is very, very likely to hurt your site if it's a site that's not old enough to be free from the sandbox rules.
     
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    Well I believe your wrong about that.
    If that were true your competitors could just submit you to a mass spam so you get 50,000 links or something. If you build up bad links(don't link to them but they link to you) than you may stay in the sandbox longer but it won't effect any rankings after getting out.
     
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    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    Yes, write a meta description that will (1) appeal to your readers and (2) accurately describe your site. Keep it reasonably short. Very few people want to read a long paragraph. Remember that web surfers are often taking just fractions of a second eyeballing each link in the search results.

    The meta description will show up under the blue hyperlink in search engine results. That is what many websurfers read before clicking on a link. Surfers want to see if the link is relevant to their search needs. That relevance can be established by a short, descriptive, and appealing meta description.
     
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