Muslim Woman and mother to five beaten to death by an Islamophobe

Nudity, rape, sex without marriage, whatever.. are strictly banned in Islam. Not accepted in the Egyptian society in general either.

How would you like to respond to it then ?

So, your point is that it's okay to respond to 9/11 by attacking Muslims who didn't even take part in it. Wow. Just wow.

Not an exception either. It's still not acceptable. Did I say that I support the mob? No. But I said you exaggerate about it and about the numbers.

That's not logical. I never said that. The thing is that you denied the possibility that it's a hate crime.

 

I said getting all of them out isn't a bad solution. Although it's not the best. Not fair yes, but in war times you haven't got much options.

Also, why did most of them flee to Palestine ? It's not their country. So is it Okay to take my neighbor's house if my wife pushed me out of the house? Is that your logic?

 

I am obviously aware of this.

This is obviously untrue, as related by first hand accounts in a myriad of links I've provided.

I already have. The police will investigate, the guilty will be brought to justice. No need for further action on anyone's part at the moment, unlike the situation in Egypt.

Not at all my point. Re-read Browntwn's post. He made this particular point using more concise language.

You said whats the big deal. That is justification.

So you think if only 100 guys participated it is somehow better? You are just making more excuses. It took an hour to get enough military troops there to break up the gang rape. These are not your "uneducated" countryside rural idiots. These are your suburbun Cairo/Tahir Square dwelling intellectuals. These are people like you.

Of course you did. "Quit lying" you said, when the discussion was simply focused on fact finding. A note left at the crime scene was all the evidence you needed to argue the husband should not even be investigated.

Quote me. Substantiate what you just claimed with my own words. I'll hold my breath.

 

I'm Egyptian and I know about my country and traditions more than you do.

I'm talking with your voice. From an American point of view, is touching a girls boob a big deal? Not really a very big deal.

Not all of Cairo's residents are educated. I never said that.There are many poor districts in Cairo too. Tahrir is surrounded by the poorest districts and it's not a rich district either. I'm not blaming them for being poor, but I'm saying that those who did such acts can't be "well-educated" people.

And here we go, I ask again, Do you believe an Islamophobe could be behind this? Answer this with numbers. For instance, 0.5 probability being an Islamophobe and 0.5 probability being a Muslim killer.

Please quote me saying that it's all the evidence needed.

 

So by that logic Israel should kick out all the Muslims from their lands? I am just trying to understand your way of thinking about these things.

I have no idea where the Jews you supported kicking out of Egypt were supposed to go. Your country kicked them out and logic says they would obviously end up dead or in some other country. Are you surprised many chose to go to Israel and not be subject to the group prejudice you condone where any Jew can be blamed for acts of other Jews?

 

I'll bet you do.

My voice? An American point of view? We treat sexual assault very seriously in this country(and most other western nations as well). Had the exact same thing happened in the US, there would be 200-300 guys facing time in prison. Remind me again what penalty those so-called Muslims in Egypt faced?

Why are you asking me this question with numbers if, according to your last post, I denied the possibility it could be a hate crime? If your last post were accurate, my number by definition would be 0% chance it was a hate crime.

My answer was to be found in the very quote you linked. Most spouses are murdered by their husbands. Hate crimes happen. A thorough examination of the evidence will lead the case where it goes. I don't know enough to predict a result and neither do you, which is what makes this thread so absurd.

I quoted you saying "Quit lying" when I presented the idea it could be something other than a hate crime. How were we supposed to interpret that?

 

I find the lack of logic here disturbing. It could have been three things really. Attack by an outside, attack by the husband, or even attack by the daughter.

After watching the video I got a really strange vibe, something just does not... seem right.

 

Me too. And, just another small thing...

It's possible there is a reasonable explanation for that. But, the fact she was also home the whole time of the murder. And, the statement about coming from behind. None of that proves anything, and it could be an attack from an intruder outside the family. I just have a feeling there may be more to this case.
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i don't believe to this girl she's a fake, it's not a true girl, though a true situation
just look at her she's a good actor!!! how can we believe to this theatre!!!!

 

Now, I'm reading in the news that the bludgeoned woman's cousin (Hussein Alwadi) was at the murder scene before police. I wonder if the 17-year-old daughter is saying she called him before police? Also, I've read the medical examiner's autopsy report was sealed. And yet, the cousin has a very detailed description of the murder. It's surprising (if)the police gave all these details to the family in the midst of an investigation.

Here's an interview with the cousin>>

 

News Update:

 

Now there is a surprise. Excuse me if I fall out of my chair and have a heart attack from surprise. It just couldn't be a member of the immediate family.

Far more likely a hate criminal seized upon this particular Muslim family, in a neighborhood filled with Muslims, left a threatening note that nobody kept or reported, and returned a few weeks later to beat only the wife to death with a tire iron in a manor consistent with extreme rage. Nothing stolen. Nothing vandalized. No other family members hurt.

Obviously a hate crime, just like Trayvon Martin.

 

Shaima Alawadi, Iraqi woman killed in her Calif. home, was planning divorce: documents


(CBS) EL CAJON, Calif. - The case of an Iraqi-American woman found beaten inside her Southern California home last month was originally reported as a possible hate crime, but according to newly released court documents, investigators are looking at the woman's family life as they investigate her murder.

Shaima Alawadi, 32, was discovered on March 21 in the kitchen of her home by her teenage daughter, Fatima Alhimidi, who called 911. She had been brutally beaten and died at the hospital three days later.

Police found a handwritten note at the scene reading "Go back to your country, you terrorist," according to CBS affiliate KMFB, and Fatima told CBS Los Angeles that it wasn't the first time they'd received a threatening note.

"A week ago they left a letter saying, 'This is our country, not yours, you terrorist,", said Fatima Alhimidi, 17. "My mom ignored that, thinking [it was] just kids playing around, pranking."

But a search warrant affidavit mistakenly released to the San Diego Union-Tribune on Wednesday indicates that turmoil inside Alawadi's family has raised police suspicions. Specifically, a family member told detectives that Alawadi was planning to leave her husband and move to Texas at the time of her death.

Police found partially filled out divorce papers in her Ford Explorer and as of March 27, when the search warrant was requested, authorities had not been able to determine the whereabouts of her husband, Kassim Alhimidi, at the time of her death.

In addition, according to the affidavit, Fatima Alhimidi allegedly jumped out of a moving vehicle driven by her mother after being caught in a car with a 21-year-old man in November 2011. She was admitted to the hospital, and told personnel there that she was being forced to marry a cousin. But when police showed up to interview her, she refused to speak to them.

Less than four hours after finding her mother in the kitchen, Alhimidi sent a text message to an as-yet unidentified person saying "The detective will find out tell them cnt talk," according to the affidavit. Police received a warrant to search her phone, as well as other electronic devices in the home.

Police also believe the note left near Alawadi's body was a copy, and are looking for the original.

The search warrant affidavit, signed by a superior court judge on March 27, asks permission for officers to search the Alawadi home and Shaima and Kassim's cars for evidence including notes, paper stock, electronic and data storage devices, clothing, jewelry and weapons, "specifically items that are similar to a tire iron."

The affidavit states that Alawadi received at least six blows to the head and suffered four skull fractures with a weapon "similar to a tire iron."

Alawadi's husband, daughter and son traveled to Iraq this week to bury her.

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Can't say I am surprised.

 

I think they are not going to go back to USA. If they are involved in it.

 

I have to agree. I find it amazing the US would let the guy flee the country with his entire family with an ongoing investigation where he, or one of the other family members, is clearly a suspect.

FTR, this is why it is unwise to create threads like this based on conjecture. If this guy doesn't return to the US, this thread will have to be retitled,

"Muslim man beats wife to death with a tire iron and flees to the middle east to avoid justice"​

I doubt that was the kind of headline Elbenergy wanted to help publish.

 

This poor Muslim woman beaten to death in El Cajon in what originally appeared to be a hate crime seems to have been all but forgotten. No marches in the streets, no calls for justice, no outrage at all. What gives? Is the life of a Muslim woman worth nothing? Somehow, I suspect that had the evidence continued to support a islamophobic hate crime, we would be seeing marches in the US and riots abroad demanding justice for Shaima, but now, nothing. Nothing at all. Nobody cares.Just another honor killing.

She will probably share the fate of Fatima Abdullah of Tampa Florida, whose cause of death was ruled a suicide by means of repeatedly beating her face against a coffee table.

 

We are just too busy dude. There is a government that should take care of justice, not us. P.S There's no such thing as honor killing in Islam, it's just traditions by some extremist Muslims but has nothing to do with Islam itself.

 

Nobody buys your bullshit. I guess you posts it so you can pretend even you believe it, but we both know not even you believe it.

 

And in the "not a surprise" to many of us news... the husband has been arrested for the murder.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...in-El-Cajon-Womans-Murder-Cops-178201451.html

 

How funny, I too had been checking about once a month for new information on this case.

[video=youtube;wxlhyX-4qKI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxlhyX-4qKI[/video]

Now the real question. Will it get airtime on any national media outlet?