copyright issues in the "sell content" forum

Discussion in 'Support & Feedback' started by good links, Nov 14, 2006.

  1. #1
    Hi,

    I often find "offers" in the "sell content" forum where it is highly questionable if the user has the rights to sell what he/she sells. I think that if there is a proof that a user sells something without full rights he/she sould be banned. Take a look at this example:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=178280

    also a sticky could be usefull which says that you will be banned if you sell something without the proper rights to do so

    It's important to keep this forum clean of these problems because when I buy something I want to be sure that there are no problems with copyright or resell rights.

    Often people collect something on the internet and try to make a quick buck with that...
     
    good links, Nov 14, 2006 IP
  2. • • • AdA • • •

    • • • AdA • • • Peon

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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #3
    There are appropriate legal avenues for protecting your work. It's not up to the site owners or mods to be judge and jury on this.
     
    sarahk, Nov 14, 2006 IP
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    Robert Allen Peon

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    #4
    I think this is totally wrong. He shouldnt sell your content. Thanks for the joining the forum and i hope you enjoy your stay. It is the minority which try and break the rules and make false profit.

    ROb
     
    Robert Allen, Nov 14, 2006 IP
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    good links Peon

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    #5
    I only said that if it's proven then action should be taken. Do you want to accept that this becomes a place for warez traders? That would be really bad for the whole forum.
     
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  6. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    And how would you like to 'prove' it?
     
    T0PS3O, Nov 14, 2006 IP
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    good links Peon

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    #7
    in this case I contacted the original artist:

    she confimred that this user does not have any permissions to sell her icons - also she (• • • AdA • • •) came to the forum and posted to this thread...

    if you (mods) don't want to take action in these cases so be it, however I just gave my opinion that I consider this a serious problem...
     
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  8. Ballz

    Ballz Well-Known Member

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    #8
    It's your job when you do a business transaction to take care of all the possible *problems*, the mods dont have that kind of time to check all the buyers and sellers and if their goods were what they promises. You can leave a reddie if you were conned.

    Then again, why would you deal with questionable people? I would not. Thats it.

    The mods and the owner can intervene to make a wrong deal correct or even ban users on *said* deals.

    Just being frank thats all.

    Addition: However, if proof beyond question is provided I guess the mods could look into it and keep the place clean. But thats asking for a lot considering the amount of work and how they are already under lot of pressure with the amount of posting done here.
     
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  9. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    But that doesn't "prove" that she is the original artist - merely that she has a claim against the work.
     
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  10. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #10
    Correct, it proves nothing at all. It could just be someone out to annoy the person selling for all we know. It's for that exact "he said, she said" reason that we can not intervene without actual court orders.
     
    T0PS3O, Nov 14, 2006 IP
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    • • • AdA • • • Peon

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    Of course that I´m the authoress of this icons.
    I have put two links where you can download my work.
    That more you want, the files psd?
    And I have warned also the authors of other icons in order that they know that they do with his icons.
     
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    good links Peon

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    #12
    I know that there is no 100% prove - but in this case it's pretty obvious what happened.
     
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    good links Peon

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    #14
    I think if AdA provided the psd for one of the icons that could be considered a proof!
     
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  15. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #15
    Maybe so but we still won't accept it. It opens the floodgates to our moderators, having to judge on thousands of disputed sales threads a month.

    Please refer to the link provided. It's the best and only way to proceed.
     
    T0PS3O, Nov 14, 2006 IP
  16. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    This isn't about Ada, who is understandably aggrieved, but about processes which must be followed. Every country has it's own legal system for sorting out commercial problems such as this. It is not appropriate for unqualified people on the net to be supplanting the judiciary.
     
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  17. ddanger

    ddanger Peon

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    #17
    simple as this. send a signed dmca statement via email and fax to the digitalpoint forum owner and the host of the site. that should lead to a takedown of the offending posts.
     
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    good links Peon

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    #18
    I understand all of your arguments, however people are warned/banned for far less serious issues on this forum... without a court ruling
     
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  19. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #19
    Because they violate our own rules which we thought of, we can easily judge and act on ourself. The person selling someone else's stuff is violating some country's rules and it takes trained legal specialists to interpret the extent and effects of such violations.
     
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    good links Peon

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    #20
    As I already said, I can understand your argument. However following your arguments:

    Does this mean I can offer a copy of Windows Vista in the sellers forum for $20 and you won't do anything against that until you get a court ruling for this case?
     
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