Increasing PR and Improving SEO

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Dynamic-Xchange, Nov 10, 2006.

  1. #1
    After working hard on my website I have just achieved a PR 4 and my website is now listed in the Top 5 results for all the big search engines for my main search term.

    I am wondering if anyone has any advice on how to go about increasing it, or is it just a case of carry on as I am and with regards to SEO, would updating my website code to conform with W3 Standards improve or strengthen my place in the rankings with the Search Engines?
     
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  2. disgust

    disgust Guest

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    #2
    stop worrying about PR. it doesn't matter.

    get more quality incoming links and write more quality content and you'll get more traffic.
     
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  3. Dynamic-Xchange

    Dynamic-Xchange Peon

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    I thought PR was quite important with regards to a websites placement in a search engine, or is that not the case? Isn't PR and quality incoming links tied together?
     
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  4. disgust

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    #4
    it's tied together but they're not the same thing. worry about links, not PR.

    visible PR is rarely updated and you really don't need to pay much attention to it for the most part.
     
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  5. Dynamic-Xchange

    Dynamic-Xchange Peon

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    Ok, best I focus my attention on increasing the number of quality incoming links to my website then. Thanks for the advice.
     
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    Dynamic Exchange,

    Google PageRank does still count. Its just not the be all and end all. Don't be obsessed by it. As previous have implied, whatever got you to PR4 will probably get you to PR5 with time.
     
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  7. disgust

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    what shows on your toolbar does not matter at all when it comes to ranking. internal PR matters, and the toolbar is a very rough estimate of it. but even internal PR isn't as powerful as it used to be.

    a PR3 page will outrank a PR8 page if the PR8 page doesn't have appropriate anchor text on the incoming links and doesn't have the right on-page optimization when the PR3 page does.

    way back when that wouldn't have been the case-- if the PR8 site had the words in the query anywhere on the page, it'd have outranked the PR3 site.

    not to mention you can be a PR8 and sandboxed and not be able to rank for a thing now...
     
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    Overseas Well-Known Member

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    PR3 can out rank a pr8 - that is very correct :) i have a pr0 site new and it's listed first page (at the bottom ... still no shame in that) - with 10 backlinks (max) - the wording is key - above my site are a couple of REALLY strong sites with PR7 ... (i wont knock them off yet!!) - so don't worry about page rank, spend time and effort in content! "ConTeNt is KiNg"
     
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    Dynamic-Xchange Peon

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    Thanks for the advice and explanation guys. I will take it all on board.
     
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    #10
    PR is the effect, not the cause of your rank. PR just lets you know how google is seeing you. If you have high PR, then google is seeing a lot of good links to you. It's an indicator.

    I don't know why people run around this forum constantly saying "PR doesn't matter"... give them a PR0, I think it would matter. =) But that's because a PR0 site isn't getting a lot of links to it... and traffic usually won't be good... etc. People just tend to mistake the effect for the cause is all.

    Technically, yes, but it depends on anchor text, I would imagine. Also, how the PR8 has optimized for that specific keyword. And how competitive the keyword is... But yes, PR is just an indicator
     
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  11. Textlinksguru

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    If you get really high pagerank such as pr8 and pr9 then yes it would matter
     
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    I've seen lots of people stating they have a PR of 3 or 4 or whatever, and they say the higher the PR the better.
    What do they mean?
    How do I find out the PR for my sites?
    Is it a term that only applies to a particular search engine?
     
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    Pr stands for Pagerank which is by google search engine. You can look at the google's toolbar to find our the abou the information. Basically it's a popularity contest of how many sites that you are link to with authority sites. The higher pagerank you have, basically the better organic searches you will get from the google search engine.
     
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    Let's see if I understand this. I take it that it is a comparative ranking of popularity between all web sites, according to Google, rather than the important search engine position for keyword lookups on the various search engines. However, it is a significant measurement of traffic, so when someone says they have a PR of 9, they must be getting more than just 200,000 visitors per month. Also, from what I understand, PR is updated for all sites once per quarter.

    (I don't think I have the toolbar installed for either FF or IE, but was able to find a website that checks PR and even predicts future PR).
     
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  15. Ratman2050

    Ratman2050 Well-Known Member

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    Youre contradicting yourself.

    The only way you get PR is by quality links!

    I for one think PR is an important factor.

    A quality link is PR4+ link, so if they didnt call it a PR4 link how would you know its a quality link!
     
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    Ohh Please! What search engine is that? MSN? Or wait, is that for a keyword with 3 sentences in it and your domain happens to be the exact same match?
     
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    a lot more goes into how powerful a link is in google than just the PR of the page it sits on.
     
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    True you could also see how popular or how well it is indexed, but having created PR it simplified that.
     
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    Keep working on it .. buying some links on high PR pages can get you high PR but content / incoming links will get you a better position and if you are not planning to make money by selling links then PR really doesnt matter to much extent . Build the Content . Good Luck ;) :)
     
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