Is there any justification for suicide bombings?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Bushranger, Feb 6, 2012.

  1. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #41
    You will never get it untill some SOLDIER with another flag on their badge will attack your homeland. Then we'll see how you will be defending *soldiers* and comparing them to kidnappers, you just really out of WAR reality.

    Oh please, dont start, Im too lazy to search how many civilians were killed by your "innocent soldiers" and "innocent missiles" all over the world. You can start researching from Hiroshima and Nagasaki btw.

    what? Saudi Arabia, Pakistan? So why arent your troops there? Never heard of a war in Saudi Arabia, strange. So in Afghanistan, in Iraq - there are no terrorists according to your post?
     
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  2. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #42
    Yet another topic switch. You are confusing anyone reading this thread, so let me bring you back. You say terrorists are the same as soldiers. I point out that terrorists are as different from soldiers as police are from kidnappers, and you respond with "You won't understand until you get attacked". Really? Thats the best you can do? Explain it to me, and everyone else again. How are terrorists just like any other soldier? How are my points two posts ago showing the differences invalid?

    You get your ass kicked in your inability to defend your positions, and you resort to trolling, talking about how only those who have been invaded know what you are talking about. Newsflash: NOBODY knows what you are talking about.



    Once again, you equate terrorists to soldiers. Stick with the topic.

    LoL. Re-read my post the nationality of the terrorist is inconsequential. Saudi terrorists don't represent or speak for the Saudi Arabian government. If they did, they would be called soldiers, not murdering terrorists. If Pakistani terrorist represented Pakistan, the Pakistani government would not be actively helping us hunt and kill them inside the borders of Pakistan. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Should I use smaller words?
     
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  3. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #43
    you can call them even martians, that wont change a dime for dead "innocent civilians", stick to "killing innocent civilians" - Hiroshima and Nagasaki. You brought that, not me.
     
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  4. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #44
    I had no idea o'nation could fly a B-29, much less that he was old enough to have done so 67 years ago.

    Sumbitch has been lying about his age.
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #45
    I like hard data: I looked up some information about how many people are dying from suicide bombers and who those people are:

    The facts over the last many years are simply that when it comes to suicide bombers most of the murderers are Islamic and most of the victims are Islamic. So when you speak about suicide bombings over this past decade most of the murderers and most of the victims are Muslims.

    Muslims killing Muslims. Its been rampant for over a decade and pretty much Muslims don't seem to care. After a decade there are no loud voices out there to say "STOP IT". so it keeps going on...and to this day most of the targets are muslims.

    Its astounding. You would think some Islamics somewhere would get pissed off and say stop it. But they don't.

    Here is some sample data from a 2 month period in late 2009. Murder by murder. Incident by incident. Mostly innocents. The overwhelming majority of those injured or killed are Muslims and many of them are innocent children and women. Lots of incidents where the targets are killed in buses and bazaars. Innocent muslims going about their day and getting slaughtered by fanatics. http://www.newsrealblog.com/2009/12...illed-by-islamofascists-in-the-past-2-months/

    During this short 2 month period over 1300 died, over 3,000 injured..and it was a relatively quiet little period in the midst of a decade long period during which fanatics have been slaughtering muslims.

    You would think someone would catch on.
     
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    jayrudalf Peon

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    #46
    Its all about the money and nothing else.
     
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    #47
    Oh sure, throw me a straight line when I'm trying to be good.
     
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  8. N_F_S

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    #48
    Right on, BUT most of the time it happens with a 3rd party getting involved. I dont know of any country without any influence OUTSIDE where such killings would exist, maybe african only, pirates etc.

    By the way, why does it matter if its muslim killing muslim or not? Christians killling plenty christians(maniacs, serial killers, etc. freaks), I just dont follow the logic. All humans in the end of day. A muslim dad can kill his daughter for bad things in some radical countries, no surprise to me.
     
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  9. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #49
    Its just a statement of fact. Christian did kill plenty of Christians (and other assorted folks) based solely on their religion during the dark ages. Nowadays, its mostly Muslims killing Muslims. Facts are facts. /shrug.
     
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  10. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #50
    Do you hear these "facts" in a court? "Hey, you muslim killer sentenced for 10 years and you obama the christian maniac sentenced for 20 years!" lolllllllllllllll Dont pretend like you are a fool, its just your imagination. Whats next? White/black ?

    who cares?Muslim, christian, Budda? Oh, sorry, the world police does.
     
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  11. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #51
    Who cares about Muslims killing millions of Muslims? Obviously not you.

    Glad to see you are so concerned about the "World Police" and so absolutely unconcerned about Muslim on Muslim violence. How long have you hated Muslims?
     
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    #52
    SELECT justification FROM human knowledge WHERE children kidnapped and forced to commit suicide bombing

    Warning: No such result in the universe . OP is delusional (the public is surprised) .

    Let me know when you find a justification Bushranger but I think you'll be beheaded for your love of man before you find one . BTW how many more extremists has Australia welcomed in 2011 ? A thousands more ?

    I see multiculturalism is advancing with grace - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-05-17/muslim-group-wants-sharia-law-in-australia/2717096
     
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  14. ApocalypseXL

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    #54
    Right , right , because multiculturalism won't bring even more extremist immigrants to your economic honeypot . Also since your fertility ratings says dying nation you surely won't get outnumbered in the next 20-30 years . At least the Aussi patriots will still be there to uphold freedom .... do you have any left ?
     
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  15. boblord666

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    #55
    We're doing fine thanks. Talk to Obamanation he thinks we are all white and don't let immigrants in. I'm sure you'll have an interesting conversation.
     
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    Do I smell white guilt ? I thought you were left-wing .
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #57
    Nah, Apoc is not fact resitant like you are, so hes no fun to chat with. I see you are still struggling with Australia's "all white" nature, so here it is again :D. No need to thank me.

    Australia By Ancestry (Race) 2006 Census

    White Folk
    Australian (White) - 31.13%
    English -29.65%
    Irish - 9.08%
    Scottish - 7.16%
    Italian -4.29%
    German - 4.09%
    Dutch - 1.86%
    French - .5%
    Russian -.3%
    Welsh - .57%

    Arguably Non White Folk including Americans and New Zealanders - 11.37%


    source

    Of course such a heavily "White" nation could never have gotten there without an immigration policy that only allowed white people in. A policy that only truly came to an end a little over 30 years ago.

    Another interesting Australia factoid. The good and gentle Australian people managed to take the indigenous population of Australia from 1 million people in 1788 down to 120,000 people by 1901. They remain second class citizens to this day.

    Bobo, why do you dispute the census data put out by your own government?
     
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  18. boblord666

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    Too nice a day to bother with you princess, we've had this discussion before. Don't forget it's Bali this week - how does the Kuta memorial 10.00am Thursday sound to you?
     
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    Hmm interesting facts on the immigration policy but they're still gonna get buttraped by the number of extremists flooding from the Middle East or from S-E Asia . AFAIK for the past 30 years the gates have been far flung . The aboriginal population last i heard they where receiving some pretty fat welfare checks , one thing that came out in the news was that AUS spent some good million to make gasoline "unsniffable" , as for the extermination that was mostly due to European diseases like small pox and the likes of it .

    Anyway given how far AUS is culturally invaded id say they got equal chances of becoming a caliphate or a division of China . My bet is on the caliphate since those extremists are more violent .
     
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  20. roshanindia

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    While the act of killing innocent people is condemning, I believe suicide bombing is not motivated through religion. We have bunch lot of cases of suicide bombing in which non muslims were involved. No man is that stupid to sacrifice his own life for no cause. He might have came across some unjustice done to him or his family and being helpless he may feel that choosing suicide bombing is only the way left.

    Suicide bombing is also motivated politically. But i think its wrong to blame religion for all causes. Islam strictly forbids killing of innocent people, & being an Imam no one will motivate killing of innocent. We have millions of imams condemning the act of suicide killing and they pray daily for peaceful atmosphere everyday which i beleive no media brings it to you.
     
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