Is there any justification for suicide bombings?

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  1. Mikaël2

    Mikaël2 Member

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    #21
    The 9/11 terrorists demanded that the US remove their bases from the middle east as well as stop financing and supplying arms to Israel (an illegal state). I think these are quite reasonable demands, we should give them their demands before they do another terrorist attack?
     
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  2. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #22
    Terrorists don't get to dictate to us who are allies are. Suicide bombings will create the opposite of what the Islamic terrorists hope to achieve. Don't bother using "we" to pretend you are not on the terrorists side.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #23
    Says it all, doesn't it?


    Hey Mikael. Demand in one hand, crap in the other, and let me know which one fills up first.
     
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  4. Mikaël2

    Mikaël2 Member

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    #24
    If the price for Israel is 500 billion dollars + 3000 murdered civilians + 14000 injured soldiers + 1000's of traumatized soldiers, then this price is too high. You cannot afford this price, Ron Paul doesn't think so anyway, and he's getting more votes than ever before. That refutes your idea that the suicide bombers are failing ! Vote Ron Paul 2012.

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  5. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #25
    You're too ignorant to realize how many votes Ron Paul loses when someone like you promotes him.
     
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  6. Mikaël2

    Mikaël2 Member

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    #26
    So long as Israeli's who work at the federal reserve print money and transfer it to Paul's adversaries (so they can promote themselves) he will lose votes. Are you going on holiday to your homeland (Israel) this summer btw?
     
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  7. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #27
    How many times are you going to edit this?

    At first, your post said Ron Paul is my worst nightmare, and how I don't want him elected, then went off to the claim that I must be Israeli...

    Then you changed it to say Israeli citizens are all sending money to US political campaigns (except Ron Paul's), with the bit about going off to my homeland for holiday...

    Now, you've changed it again to say Israelis are all working at the Federal Reserve to print money off to anyone that is Ron Paul's adversary. And, of course, I'm still going off to relax in Israel for a much deserved holiday.

    Are you good? Done editing for now?
     
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  8. Mikaël2

    Mikaël2 Member

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    #28
    Is he?

    You obviously are, and that's where your loyalty is, you don't care about Americans, you believe its a good idea for Americans to die for you, so you could have a homeland.

    Didn't say "citizens", I understand you have to make things up as you are in a very tough situation right now.

    Thought I'd add where they are getting all that money from. Hasta la vista.
     
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  9. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #29
    I'm quoting this before you edit AGAIN, I'll be back...
     
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    #30
    just wondering what about him do you not like?
     
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  11. Mikaël2

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    #31
    He's going to stop financing Israel her homeland, + end the federal reserve owned by Israeli's (to destroy America), this could be a reason. Then again its not clear whether she/he doesn't like Paul or not.
     
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    #32
    That's what Mikael said, about me. Not true. Ron Paul is not my worst nightmare. However, I do find it disturbing when terrorists supporters, like Solar Products AKA Israei AKA Mikael (and whatever other DP ID's he has) go around campaigning for him basically saying, "A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Islamic terrorists!"
     
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  13. Mikaël2

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    #33
    Care to back up your claim with evidence?
     
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    #34
    yes, if you've read any books on world war 2, you will find many heroes there who smashed their aircraft right into enemies(I think their name is Kamikaze), thus dying themselves. I think its a similar thing mentally.
     
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    #35
    I've read your posts for awhile, I know. Here's just one example from this thread (post #24):

    It's not that difficult to figure out what side you're on.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #36
    Its not so much that people like Israel, its that they bloody hate what you represent. Everytime you open your yap, 20 new Israel supporters are created. LMAO.


    That you are a terrorist sympathizer? now this may not work for you, but most folks with a 5th grade education could goto advanced options on this forum, do a report for all posts created by Mikael, and print out the list. Take the list and tape it to the wall. Throw a dart at it. If you managed to hit the list, you've got a 75% chance of hitting a post where you openly support and justify terrorism. Probalby won't work for you, but like I said, there is a basic educational requirement (one that doesn't put land at the north pole LOL).

    Oh yes! Kamakazi's are EXACTLy the same as Islamist terrorists except for a few details

    • They were actual soldiers
    • They were in the direct service of an actual soverign nation
    • They didn't purposefully fly their planes into civilian targets with hopes of maiming unarmed women and children
    • When their nation lost the war, they quit committing suicide


    but other than that, yah, they are exactly the same! LOL
     
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  17. Mikaël2

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    #37
    Does not imply any support for terrorism, at all.

    Don't bring me a list, get me a quote where I support terror, pick you best one.
     
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    #38
    As far as i'm aware the kamakazes started when they ran out of bombs and moved on to squadrons of kamakaze pilots because they found it worked well in destroying enemy weapons.

    The terrorist bomber is entirely different in the sense they were looking for ways of drawing attention to their plight. Whilst at first it worked by giving the desired attention it backfires because now we see why they are our enemy. Gives us more impetus to back a war on such sick, twisted and demented individuals.
     
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  19. N_F_S

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    #39
    actual soldiers? is that a new creature? To me they all humans, 2 legs, 2 hands, 1 head, right?

    direct service cannot exist when your country is screwed by soldiers of other nation. Never heard of partisans? Yes, they did a great job too in ww2.

    Well, no one knows that exactly, in a war there is no innocent people, only "yours" and "theirs". In a proper direct war. US has not been in a proper war since ww2.

    Nah, sometimes they win, soviets won nazis with many such kamikazes & partisans.

    Any way you twist it, on a plane, on a motorbike, on a wheelchair, its all about "what I can do with things that I have". You will not argue that if they had planes they would do a proper kamikaze action instead of bombing somewhere, would you. I said the mentality is the same: to die hitting your enemies.
     
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  20. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #40
    Right! They are all the same. Police are the same as kidnappers since they both haul people away against their will. A man who defends his home with a gun is the same as a man who kills someone for his tennis shoes. They are both murderers according to you. Seriously, this is the best you can do with basic logic skills?

    Ahh there it is. Justification for killing civilians. What a genius.

    Now that is interesting. Practically every terrorist act has been carried out by a citizen of a country that is not occupied by another nation. Saudi Arabia. Pakistan. Yemen. not only are those countries not occupied, they have real soldiers in their direct service.

    By your definition, I simply need to be dissatisfied with your government and I can be called a partisan, who is perfectly justified in visiting your country, and murdering a bunch of your women and children with neither the consent of your country or mine. I might even be a hero to you. This is where you differ from 95% of the rest of the planet. We tend to call such a person a murderer.
     
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