absolutely not, Islam clearly states that you can choose to believe in what ever you want. (waits for you to quote about one specific reference)
So what do you think it would take to change the law in various middle eastern countries so they stop killing apostates as it is contrary to Islam which they claim to be following?
To make it clear with islam, I'd have them all sign the passages which call for violence, war and murder from the quran as invalid, before they can even enter a free country. I'm in contact with a group of lawyers to check out this option. May take some time, but I believe it will happen some time in the future.
they do a LOT of things that are contrary to what Islam teaches. what will it take to change such things? If i knew the answer to that I would be on it. people like arnie maybe can change it?
I'm digging up an old reply from the first page, but you are inaccurate. We are Christians and believe in Jesus Christ.
You don't even have to defend it. There is a small percentage of people that will think that way no matter what you post. The Mormons I know really are an example of Christian virtues. They are kind, honest hard working people. Don't let that comment get to you...
I don't think you understood my comment to him. It has nothing to due with the virtues that mormons proclaim, but that the term Christian is a newer term for them to call themselves. The mormon belief system is quite different than the Christian belief system. Like many other religious systems they claim the Bible is not accurate and that a prophet came and has the true story which contradicts the Torah and new testament scriptures. I wasn't trying to pick fights, just clarifying. I respect chulium and wasn't trying to dis him in anyway. It is just confusing when JWs and mormons are now both calling themselves Christian, why couldn't they stick with their own names? === off the soap box and off of DP ---
It's not that "peaceful muslims" never try to do something. Take this forum for example, how many of those people bashing "Islam" would listen? I doubt they are going to listen, everytime you explain to them something, they will find a way to twist the words, or accuse you of this and that. All these make them become frustated as those people are not actually trying to understand what they are trying to say instead they make fun of them, this will lead to, Frustration leads to Anger Anger leads to Hatred Hatred leads to Violence Once you commit violence, you're not longer a peaceful person, all your messages are nothing more than to reflect your ego, it is all lies. You're not preaching to tell the truth, but you're preaching to let your ego win. That is how we get those radical people. So, the best thing you can do is to keep silent. God is great, if you're really sincere with what you're trying to tell people, eventually, the truth will speak for itself...
Our law is created by human, majority of the human in this world have religion, yet violence happens every single seconds, People will use anything to justify their action, even if that means "religion". A crime done by an average guy make him a criminal but not his religion, so why does a crime make by a country leaders through a system created by them will make their religion bad too?
I think LDS (Mormons) and Jehovahs Witness's also call themselves Christians because they are. In my opinion, anyone that believes and worships Jesus Christ is a Christian. Protestants, catholics, evangelical, JW, baptist, mormon etc etc...they are all Christians.
People need to study the Bible to see who Christ is and see for themselves if their religion knows who he is. Even Muslims believe in someone they call Jesus Christ. People from many faiths manage to know the real Christ despite their religion. Rather than making blanket statements about who does and doesn't know who Christ is, it would be better to just talk about who he is and what he did and let people decide for themselves if that is the Christ they believe in.
The link reveals more of the truth, a shock for people who don't no about this moderate country. http://www.compassdirect.org/en/display.php?page=news&lang=en&length=long&idelement=4623&backpage=summaries ‘Apostasy’ Investigated Perlis Religious Adviser Datuk Mat Jahya Husein has promised to investigate the alleged conversion of Datuk Azhar Mansor from Islam to Christianity – to determine whether he had commited “apostasy†by converting from Islam, a crime under the Islamic half of Maylasia’s dual legal system. “Apostasy is included in the law of every state, and the state government will ensure that it is investigated thoroughly,†he reportedly said. “The allegation involves a citizen of Perlis and concerns the individual’s religion. We have to investigate it thoroughly, as we fear that we would be accused of not doing our job and not paying attention to such matters.†The outcome of the investigation will be made public to confirm Azhar’s faith.
There are many good muslims as we all know. BUT! What about the freedom of speach? What about informing others on religious issues as this forum is about? If US and Europe knew as much as they know now about Islam, may be there wouldn't be 09/11.
We don't proclaim the bible is inaccurate - rather, we use the King James version of the Bible, with translation corrections by Joseph Smith through the power of God to correct or add some last facts and verses through the centuries. (Called the JST) I understand that, but wanted to make it clear We are Christians. Unfortunately not everybody will admit there are good Muslims. I don't mind informing people about issues of the world, but I do mind it when it turns into nothing but or is started as nothing but a bashing thread. And true, we should have taken more precautions earlier.