Ron Paul KNOWINGLY pursued racist and anti semitic themes to pad his wallet

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by earlpearl, Jan 27, 2012.

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    According to sources who were with Ron Paul when all this occurred he knew exactly what was going on when publications under his name published the most outrageous racist and anti semetic attacks. Sneaky Ron was appealing to a group of people from whom he knew he could make a lot of money by spouting off racism against Blacks and against Jews. Now he denies all of it. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ron-paul-know-and-when-did-he-know-it/252146/

    Now the guy wants to be President of the United States.

    He has an explicit history of being a racist. He has been preaching for years that there would be wild crazy inflation as the FED printed money up the kazoo and flooded the US economy with liquidity.

    Well it occurred in 2008 and 2009. The Fed put more liquidity into the economy than at any other such short period. Where is the crazy inflation??? Where is it???

    I just don't get it. Why do people believe in this guy? and where is the wild crazy inflation??? and when will he actually take responsibility for something???
     
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    Spoiltdiva Acclaimed Member

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    It's really a non issue as Ron Paul consistently gets only 10% of the popular vote in almost all polls.There is no way this guy will ever get elected.He has an appeasement philosophy much akin to Chamberland in the 30's.
    We all remember how well that went in regards to Herr Hitler.
     
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    Mikaël2 Member

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    Paul has consistently denied these allegations. Thanks to the biased mainstream media he won't get elected so you got nothing to worry about. All republicans apart from Paul are nutjobs and will not beat Obama.
     
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    I don't think he has much chance. I think his end the fed stance is a good one. Not that it should end but at least have it publicly owned so then the public can benefit as a whole rather than the very select few who benefit now. I see it as suffering for 4 years but you get longer term benefits. I think it would be worthwhile suffering (he can't be that bad) for a short time in order to fix that perk of the bankers. Plus, I like the idea of going back to defensive stance instead of aggresive with the army will help atm. I don't think laws would allow him to implement racial policies.

    He, like the rest, will be seen as a let-down if you expect too much out of him and imho, the only republican worth looking at, over Obama.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Any profits made by the fed are handed over to the US government. An audit makes sense for any financial institution, though I have yet to hear the iron clad argument that proves beyond a doubt the fed needs to be ended.


    I'd vote for anyone who was willing to revoke Mikael/SolarProducts/Israel's British Visa and send him back to Qatar. I think Obama or any of the Republicans except Paul would be willing to do so, so I'm happy.
     
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    From what I understand the fed is a consortium of bankers who print money for the government who then has to pay them back with interest. How does all profits return to government? That's one I haven't heard yet.
     
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    ron paul has no chance..if the so called "moral majority" stood by their so called morals the they would even think of newt
     
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    Don't trust the MSM. Where is the evidence Dr Ron Paul knew about these or endorsed them?

    That editor was James B. Powell... Not Dr Ron Paul...

    Please see
    [video=youtube;HP-mYq4DaJI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP-mYq4DaJI&feature=player_embedded[/video]

    MSM wants to see their establishment puppets in the office. Romney, Obama, Hillary, Gingrich... they are all basically the same. No change in foreign policies. No change in economic policies. More repression of your civil rights...

    Now the guy wants to be President of the United States. [/QUOTE]

    He deserves it. Dr Ron Paul is super awesome... He has a history of being super awesome...

    [video=youtube;N4WMiy3G_ZU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4WMiy3G_ZU[/video]

    Actually the only anti-racist running for office...

    [video=youtube;6MAYN6LrLdw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MAYN6LrLdw[/video]

    If only the US dollar wasn't the most preferred currency for International Trade, it would have already collapsed into a wild crazy inflation... Today, the largest export of the US government are bonds and currency... Lets audit the FED so that the American people can actually know what is really going on behind their backs... A partial audit revealed Federal Reserve revealed a secret bailout of 16 Trillion Dollars.

    Source: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=28006&context=va

    US Dollar would hyper-inflate once the world switches to alternative basket of currencies for international trade... Its gonna happen.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    They had his name on them. They came from his press. His media outlet.



    They came out of Paul's office. Paul may not have been the editor, but if ANY candidate allows things to come out of their office that have the taint of racism, they wear the blame for it. That is how this works. And it wasn't a single story either.


    And if the pope wasn't Catholic he wouldn't be the pope. Kind of a silly thing to say. The pope is Catholic. The US dollar is the most preferred currency for international trade. Gaza is run by terrorists. These are all just facts.


    Right. Via the overnight window. It begs a curious question. If I have $100, and I lend it out once a day, having it repaid in the evening, and I do this for a year, did I lend out $36,500, or $100? When you present that $16 Trillion dollar number, you are making the argument I lent out $36,500, which is a pure fiction.


    And our Sun will one day go dark. Just not in my lifetime or yours.
     
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    Hyperinflation is a serious possibility and can happen quicker than you think.

    [​IMG]

    Only 1 presidential candidate will cut the spending by 1 trillion.
     
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    I would ask if you are an idiot, but, since you are obviously can read and type, and idiots can't, you aren't one.. So, what is your diagnosis, out of curiosity?
     
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    obamanation is a troll. Just put him on ignore and don't feed him...
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    It never hurts to ask anyway:D.


    I suffer from that rare affliction of being an informed voter, something that cannot be said for most Ron Paul supporters.

    Mind you, I would still probably vote for Dr. Paul over Obama, but only because I take him at his word at cutting the size of the US government. 25% of GDP is quite simply too big. Of course such radical changes(and his age) would make him to be a one term president, and that ought to be just enough to get the job done.

    A Paul presidency would also afford us all the entertainment value of getting to watch Israel's neighbors get their asses kicked by Israel, again.
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    I'm fascinated by the hard radicalism of the Paulists in light of endless hard facts that most of his perspective simply doesn't work, hasn't occurred and in the face of reality is dramatically untrue. It simply falls flat on its face when confronted with reality.

    The US has not had inflation at an enormous rate even while it has significantly increased liquidity for a long time and flooded the nation with liquidity in 2008/2009. Flooded it. And inflation did not explode.

    Its the complete opposite of a core Paulist claim. In the face of overwhelming evidence Paulists completely reject facts for fantasy.

    China has shown that direct government involvement in the economy has had this tremendous boom impact. Paulists reject it.

    On top of all that several different people all confirmed that Paul knowingly and decidely moved on a direct series of racist attacks through his newsletters. Different people from different situations all familiar with Paul, and all from different settings confirmed his decisions actions and knowing involvement.

    When lots of people make one claim and the single accused person denies it....whom do you believe ....the many....or "the liar".....

    Hitler would have loved Paul. What a misguided human!!
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Not to take away from the rest of your post, which I actually mostly agree with, but what is with the fallacious logic and violation of Godwin's law?
    Seriously, you just tried to make the case for the logical fallacy of Argumentum Ad Populum.

    On a similar note, I see most of the anchors on MSNBC now claim that the way Newt Gingrich prefixed his answer to Juan William's question by saying the name "Juan", was coded racial language. In fact, they took most of Gingrich's performance in South Carolina to be 'Racially Coded' language. It would seem they all agree that Gingrich is a racist! Now with so many saying he is, and him denying it, he MUST be a racist!
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    According to this researched article in the Atlantic multiple people dispute Ron Paul's claims that he had nothing to do with the racist claims from his newsletters:

    A former secretary
    A source that worked for Ron Paul at the time but is anonymous in the article
    Ed Crane from the Cato Institute
    Eric Dondero Rittberg (O_Nation didn't you cite this guy earlier?)

    Plus a reference from newspaper.

    This is anything but requoting oft held quotes (ah O_Nation..we could give endless examples of the GOP practicing this on a daily basis couldn't we?? :D)

    This is a case of a "who you gonna believe" with multiple sources entirely disputing what Paul claims. When its multiple sources...one tends to believe the multiple sources. Especially when they are from a variety of experiences.
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    I condemn what was said in the newsletters. But he says he didn't write them. Reason indicates it was probably Rockwell.

    Still, it is concerning, if he was upset about what was being published under his name, wouldn't he object? Wouldn't he keep tabs on what was being written? On the other hand, haven't really noticed him going around saying racist remarks. So, not sure...
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    The other sources have basically said:

    He knew what was going into the articles
    He directly edited the articles
    He knowingly discussed how to target the newsletters to groups that supported racist claims because they would buy more newsletters....and clearly these groups were targeted with content to support those beliefs.

    Multiple people from various sources that knew and worked with Ron Paul directly dispute his claims of no knowledge or responsibility or involvement.

    Its inconceivable that a person would put out a series of newsletters from which he and his family made a lot of money...and not have an idea what was going on.

    He could also claim he didn't know they were in his name, he didn't know he was earning money from them, and he didn't know family members were being compensated by the earnings from these newsletters. He never seems to acknowledge any of that. ;)

    Either he takes responsibility...or he's lying.

    Meanwhile the types of racists the newsletters targeted, and self defined as a group supporting Paul issued the following video during the New Hampshire primary.... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/06/huntsman-denounces-video-_n_1189285.html

    There is a dirty despicable past there...who's purpose was to help Ron Paul and his family make as much money as they could and disseminate perspectives that are simply unimaginable for the leader of US let alone any nation that gives people respect.

    Of course he is going to deny all this in the heat of a campaign where it is appropriate to learn about the character and beliefs of the people who are competing for the position of President of the US.
     
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    If a racist likes you, are you a racist? If so, Obama would have real problems with the racist groups La Raza and the NAACP. Obviously the American public doesn't see it that way. That poorly done video aside, Huntsman's take on China was a legitimate issue for his electability.


    I can't imagine a presidential candidate being associated with such things, but then again anything is possible. For $20, can you guess what recent presidential candidate considered the person who uttered the following words to be a close personal friend and spiritual advisor?


    I'll give you a clue. It didn't impede his shot at becoming president, despite the fact he listened, nodded, and hallelujahed to this bullshit for decades.
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    O-O-O_Nation: you attack Ron Paul then you defend him. You are obviously of the flip flop Newt Gingrich/Mitt Romney group....you'll say anything to anyone at any time. tsk tsk tsk.

    The articles in question were written under Ron Paul's name. Not written under the name of a friend, an accomplice, an associate, a neighbor, a minister, or a family member.

    I assume you don't believe Ron Paul should take responsibility for anything he says. I assume you believe US inflation exploded in the last two years because of an unprecedented flooding of liquidity.

    btw: O_Nation...the price for you to read my writings is $9.95. Ooops. 3 seconds passed...the price is $29.95. Hyper inflation you know. pay up. tx that is now $49.95 :D
     
    earlpearl, Jan 30, 2012 IP