Murder is part of Islam

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by KalvinB, Nov 9, 2006.

  1. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #61
    Perhaps you are blind, so much so that you are unable to refer to Footnote 29 of the aforementioned article with the relevant link included?

    - MENJ
     
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  2. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #62
    I'm not so blind to have noted what you've already admitted. What's the beef? You even asked "do you have a problem with that?" Then went on to expand how it wasn't your problem.

    Anything else, big boy? :D
     
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  3. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #63
    Diverting the issue? The point was not so much as admission of the capital punishment but its reasoned justification for it. Something you seemed to have missed. Perhaps you are still upset after my party trounced yours in the recent elections?

    - MENJ
     
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  4. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #64
    You've already admitted and answered the issue. How could it be diverted, other than your most recent attempt?

    Yes, there's always an excuse for islam's murders, isn't there?
     
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  5. eddy2099

    eddy2099 Peon

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    #65
    Hey! You really don't get what I am saying. I am just bringing you to the modern time and age and apostasy does not amount to death. They may not change their religion on their Identity Card but that is just a technicality. No one is in jail or executed because they no longer practise Islam in Malaysia.

    Can you give me evidence that people in Malaysia are sentenced to death because of apostasy ?

    I am saying that in this world, we need to be tolerant of each other's beliefs as we have the freedom to believe what we want. Doing so, the world would be a lot more peaceful. There is no need to have hatred in this world and besides didn't Christ preach the message of peace and love amongst other things.
     
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  6. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #66
    There is no justification and reason for murder. You're just eeling along to get it through and find some like minded. You have once addmited to be for killing apostates and that you will never change your mind. Shall I post it again?

    Since when kill democrats apostates of islam?
     
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  7. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #67
    Sheesh, if you don't want to read the article then thats fine. Let others read it and be the judge.

    Lame, linking to some Islamophobic site and you call that evidence? Pfftt. Even my four-year-old cousin have much more intelligence than you on that alone.

    - MENJ
     
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  8. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #68
    I never said that I have changed my mind on that either. Red herring. Bleh.

    I support their liberal policies on economy, healthcare and foreign affairs. And yeah, I support stem-cell research and abortion. I just don't support gay rights or other matters which contradict Islamic teachings. So I am pretty much a Dem just like any other Dem :D

    - MENJ
     
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  9. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #69
    Ok, I got a red infraction for pointing to a blog here of attacking and insulting.
    I'm fine with that.
    But when anyone reads on that blog it may help to understand things better.
    Israel is extremly nervous and not without reason. They don't even trust the UN there, not without reason and it is the country that has an official war declared upon.
    Now, and here we have some sentimental mods of being concerned about insults or possible insults, even attacks. Is it not an insult to promote the killing of apostates? - to support radical views of islam to its accomplishments? - I wonder

    For fairness sake I show the people here what kind of posts are getting repped. In fact posts should be marked when they receive an infraction, that's all what I 'm asking for about this.
     
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  10. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #70
    islam is not Malaysia and Malaysia is not islam. islam is not restricted to Malaysia. Apostasy very much amounts to death. Many, many ex-muslims are slaughtered around the world for the perceived crime of leaving a religion of death and destruction.

    See above. islam is not restricted to Malaysia.

    I will not be tolerant of a religion that calls for my death because I am not muslim. I will not tolerate a religion that murders people for leaving it's religion. I will not tolerate a religion whose scriptures specifically forbid muslims from befriending Christians and Jews. This is not tolerance. If you feel compelled to tolerate this, more power to you.

    Yes, Christ preached a message of love. mohammed preached a message of death and destruction. Christ did not preach "lay down and die."
     
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  11. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #71
    I wonder how expounding the Islamic law on the issue of apostasy can be seen as "promot[ion] the killing of apostates". Or for that matter, why you should be so hung up about apostates from Islam and interfering in our affairs.

    As was said once before: Keep Views To Yourselves, Non-Muslims.

    - MENJ
     
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  12. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #72
    All that usual goobledygook is pretty much dealt with here. Too bad. Can't find anything new to say? That is oh so old, missionary.

    - MENJ
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #73
    Thanks, but I'm trying to cut back on the al-taqiyya.

    Hey! Do you like to read? I read an excellent book a while back that I think you might enjoy. The Politically Incorrect Guide to islam

    It cuts right through all the touchy feely dhimmitude BS that's sweeping Europe and gets straight to the facts. I think you'd like it. Not sure if you would qualify for free shipping to Malaysia, but don't let that stop you from adding it to your library ;)
     
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  14. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #74
    Wait when she will come after you
    She may not say much but ...

    So that is what democrats teaching is now. I still learn.

    You're tresspassing
     
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  15. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #75
    Are you saying it's not politically correct to be aware of the atrocities and backwards thinking of islam?

    Surely you are not ashamed of islam's death sentence to muslims who leave the faith?
     
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    #76
    I'm no longer curious about one thing: Menj's views. I at one time believed he had a point besides goading and baiting - but long ago concluded his only joy is the puerile post designed to incite, and no more.

    I am curious why a signature which links to a site "Analysing the moral decay of the Zionist state" of Israel - a signature which spans not only the P & R section, but every section of this website - is allowed. Anyone? Could I have a signature linking to "Women Killers - The Taliban, and Like Theocracies"?
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #77
    so there should be no problem to get you back and on trial.

    Or try to step with one leg over the border. Hmmmm ...
     
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    #78
    He's a terrorist and trying to be smart too.
     
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    #79
    He's trying but it doesn't work :rolleyes:
     
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    #80
    Don't underestimate the cause and effect he's trying to make with a few folks here.

    He got hidden cheerleaders here already.
     
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