Iran kills another of it's own nuclear scientists

I'm sure the neo-cons would have invaded by now, killing many many more people in the process. This type of mission is more like the old days. I've never argued the Allies musn't fight, indeed I believe Middle East NEEDS DEMOCRACY. I argue when the way they do it takes out too many innocent lives and will continue to argue so. I argue against lies (which is why I argue with you mostly and detest the neo-cons). You won't find me arguing against any moves that STOPS mass death and I think this, and stopping nuclear proliferation will save many innocent lives, if not the entire earth.

 

I guess if we just killed all nuclear scientists and their students in all countries then the world would be a safer place.

 

Only nuclear scientists working on building a nuclear bomb, yes world would be a lot safer place.

 

Assuming you mean 'weapons' scientists you may be onto something there. Can we take out anyone who supports them whilst were there? Would certainly cut down on the huge costs of spying. Those assassins charge like wounded bulls.

 

Hmmm,interesting....all these pervayors of peace on here advocating assassinating and killing,and generally doing away with all evildoers.Contradictory?.....no not really,just human nature.

 

I admit I was being facetious. I find it very hard to justify the killing of any nuclear scientist. I mean how can it be justified.

A person gets murdered on the basis he MIGHT be working on a POSSIBLE nuclear weapon because someone else MIGHT tell the military to use the POSSIBLY non-existent weapon.

On that basis we can justify killing any person in the world because they MIGHT know someone who MIGHT commit a crime. Doesn't work for me.

 

So was I in my reponse to your obvious facetious post. Though I was serious about them taking out the parties involved rather than the entire nation, as the neocons keep pushing for.

Source <== I believe they got the guy they were after.

 

"Jazayeri also accused the International Atomic Energy Agency of being partly responsible, saying that the UN nuclear watchdog made public a list of Iranian nuclear scientists and officials that "has provided the possibility of their identification and targeting by spy networks".

OMG - shades of that dreadful mob wikileaks. Cut off their bank accounts, hack their websites, chase the demons into hiding.





Source <== I believe they got the guy they were after.[/QUOTE]

 

I wasn't justifying any killing. You asked if the world would be a safer place if they killed all nuclear scientists. So I replied that if they killed all nuclear scientists working on nukes, world would indeed be a lot safer place..

I don't like nukes, I don't like anything that can kill millions of innocent people in a fraction of second.
If you ask my opinion, I'd have all the nukes destroyed let alone building a new one.

 

Trouble is, the countries who have nukes believe they have a nuclear deterrent so they won't give them up. After all, who would invade a nuclear armed nation. Give Iran a nuclear deterrent and the people threatening it will probably back off, unless they have more nukes of course. A vicious circle.

 

If armabignbad would stop threatening to destroy Israel once he gets a nuke I wouldn't care so much but with his constant rhetoric the world would be foolish to ignore him. Iran, and its crazy leader, can not be allowed to have nuclear weapons. I don't like us having them but our leaders don't go round saying we'll bomb Iran out of existence either.

 

It's quite clear that armabignbad doesn't like Israel, that doesn't mean he will attack them after all it is rumoured that Israel is nuclear armed and that serves as a good deterrent. All world leaders indulge in rhetoric, it makes them feel important and shows the village idiots in their own country that they are doing something.

All of this is based around how many facts? Does Iran have a weapon? They say no. Is it trying to get a weapon? They say no but they are as surely entitled to have a weapon as any other country. After all, they haven't invaded another country for 250 years so that's a pretty good history. This is all very neo-connish. Bash them up cos they MIGHT do something. If Iran keeps feeling cornered then sooner or later it MIGHT strike back. If the sanctions really start to hurt the citizens, they MIGHT revolt. How about this from left field, how about leaving Iran alone to indulge in free trade with other countries, leave them to develop technologies as they see fit, leave them to practise their religion and laws as they want. Maybe they MIGHT become valued members of world societies.

I'm off to see Mission Impossible and watch America save the world. I think its a documentary.

 

Of course it is, though I liked Team America better. Durka Durka, jihad jihad.

[video=youtube;6wmw8UB4HCU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wmw8UB4HCU[/video]

Not sure what all the whining is about. All we do is leave Iran alone. Completely alone.


Here is a question. Does nuclear deterrence/mutually assured destruction work with a country whose leadership has openly stated his country is filled with martyrs? I'm pretty sure Ahmadinejad didn't actually conduct a survey to find out how many Iranian's would actually like to be martyrs, so one would have to assume he doesn't actually care. Not exactly the kind of guy you ever let close to a nuclear weapon.

 

Deterrence works, I can't think of a country that has nuclear weapons actually being invaded by another country.

 

You don't have to worry about Iranians. When Iraqi (US-backed) invaded Iran, almost a million Iranian (mostly civilian) were killed and Iranians became human waves to clear minefields or draw enemy fire during the war. Yes, they sacrificed their life in order to save the country and they will do it again if they have to. You make A LOT of assumption in this thread. At least show some proofs. For start, what's your proof that Iranian government kills their own scientists?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran

 

Though it might sound like i'm arguing it's okay for US to have nuclear weapons I am not. It's nuclear weapons themselves I am against. Nobody should have them, not Iran, not US, not China, not Russia, nobody.

 

In the end all countries are filled with people who will fight for their country, call them patriots or martyrs, whatever. The world survived the reign of the person I regard as the world's worst, most evil, dumbest person ever to be in control of big guns. Sure hundreds of thousands of innocent people were killed - but the world survived.

 

In the end invaders are always sent packing home

 

I dont agree, in many cases the nuclear threat stops wars. Its a 50/50. North Korea is an example.