isnare.com rife with problems--Recomendation: DO NOT USE!

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by avi8r, Nov 6, 2006.

  1. #1
    A couple of months ago to my regret I signed up for isnare.com's premium service. There have been two serious problems I have had with them that I felt it important other DP members know about before making the decision to use their services either as a premium member, or on a pay as you go basis.

    1. isnare.com claims they will submit all your articles within 3-4 days of your submissoin to them. This is a fallacy. First of all, every time I have submitted an article, the date shown as my submittal date to isnare is always two days later than the actual date. When I contacted isnare about this inconsistency, they claimed that the problem was that my date (as per my time zone) is not the same date shown on their server and their server is what time stamps the submission date of the article. There are two problems I see with this claim. First, since isnare.com is located in Cebu Phillipines, it is only one day ahead of me in time zones, not two as their server represents. Second, they have never submitted three or even four days after I've submitted, but have instead my US submittal date as their reference date to submit by (buying themselves two extra days--making it six days for submittal rather than four). OK, so that is complaint one.

    2. When I submit private information to a company (such as an email address), I expect that information to be protected. Prior to setting up an account with isnare, I created a brand new email address on my server. I only used this email to open my account and provide a way for isnare to contact me. isnare is the only company that even knows this email address (or so I thought). Within 2 weeks of my creation of my isnare account, I began receiving spam email from spammers in other foreign countries. Bottom line--isnare does not protect your private information. I am not accusing them of willfully handing out my email address intentionally. But they have not taken any care to protect that info from the email harvesters. In todays landscape, I would think a service as large and well known as isnare would take the time to use tools that exist and are being successfully implemented and used on other sites, to protect our information.

    To this end, I will not be using isnare from this point forward and recommend others who value their privacy and protection from spam, to avoid them as well.
     
    avi8r, Nov 6, 2006 IP
  2. weaz

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    Thanks for the heads up!
     
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  3. avi8r

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    No problem, I hope this helps DPers
     
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  4. yfs1

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    #4
    I will still be using them..If you submit articles on a daily basis, whether it is 3 days or 6 for inclusion it really doesn't matter since essentially articles are accepted each day.

    As far as the Spam aspect, the service itself yields great results so even if that was true, taking 5 minutes to set up a unique gMail account to use doesn't bother me (All the Spam goes directly into the Spam folder anyway)
     
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    Subzero Well-Known Member

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    I think this is 2 of the less important points to mention about Isnare. What you rather should be looking at is the results.

    Online marketing is an ongoing and timely business. What difference does a day or 2 make?

    Spam is part of the internet, as yfs1 set up a gmail account.
     
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    I'm with yfs1 on this one. Never used isnare myself but getting some spam and having to wait a few days are not major problems IMO.
     
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    Honestly, I don't even mind a bit of Spam as long as it keeps the price of a platinum membership right where it is.

    I tried some auto submitters that people suggested and not only was I not impressed with the results but they added their own links to my articles (some in the articles while other submitters added to the Author box)

    I would rather have control of my own content even if that means waiting an extra day or two
     
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  8. avi8r

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    Good point--and one that I failed to mention, but the results haven't been that great either...certainly not any where near acceptable enough to make it worth the spam and delay in submissions. My point on the delay is to use truth in advertising. If it is going to take 6 days to submit my articles to the sites and directories, then tell me it's going to take 6 instead of 3-4. That kind of misrepresentation does not make me inclined to do business with someone--honesty on the other hand, does.

    @ yfs1--You of course are entitled to continue using their service, as is anyone else who feels the isnare business model works for them. What I am attempting to do here is to cut through the crap so that potential buyers of isnare's service can properly weigh the true cost (not just talking money here), versus the benefits.
     
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    Dude, you sound like a spammer here. The rest of us don't like spam. Telemarketers are also a part of daily life, but that doesn't mean I have to like and accept it or stop blowing my airhorn in their ear when they call (I hope I'm making their eardrums bleed). Spammers be damned!
     
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    You have to live in reality though. People sell mailing lists (Not that I am even saying iSnare does that) to help defray costs.

    I get spam from almost every directory I submit to, that doesn't mean I stop submitting. I just use a unique free email address and problem solved.
     
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  11. avi8r

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    I do live in reality. For every problem there is a solution. I have come up with the solution for unwanted spam in my inbox, but prior to doing so, having to deal with the extra burden of sorting through junk email (to make sure I didn't miss email from people I want/need to hear from) was a huge time waster, and I would prefer spending my time on productive activities. Enough of this for now...I've got to go vote.
     
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    I would make a suggestion that when entering ANY kind of submissions on ANY site, you use an email that can be scrapped or isn't business critical. Almost everyone sends unsolicitated mail to you these days after they get an email address.
     
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    And I appreciate that suggestion--that is in fact why I used an email address with isnare that I had never used before. In fact, because I am building this anti-spam system into my email, I have created about 35 different email addresses for registering with various services (one each)--which is why I was able to zero right in on isnare being a problem in the spam department.
     
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    what is the point of that site anyway
     
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    It distributes your articles to article directories and publishers
     
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    I deal with Glenn from Isnare on a daily basis, he submits clients articles to our travel articles directory I have never used his submital service, but from my experience he is very conciencious and service orientated. Im sure he would not be happy that you feel you have received a poor service from him.

    Regarding the spam emails, spammers set up programs to randomly crate email addresses and submit to them. So just because you are receiving spam email, does not mean that Isnare are to blame. I have set up email addresses and never used them, and they still get spammed.
     
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    Except for the fact that the email address I created is never one that a spammer would come up with on their own.
     
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    I tend to think that the result you will see will be only as good as the articles you submit. :rolleyes:
     
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    LOL--Normally I would agree with you, but I've seen crap rise to the top pretty quickly (no doubt due to enlistng the help of friends and neighbors to click to view the article and add the five star rating), and I've seen fairly good, well thought out and well written articles that don't get as much exposure. Good marketing will beat out a good product every time (Go watch the Blair Witch Project if you don't believe me).
     
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    I would wager they use the provided email when submitting and the directories themselves are letting go of your address. I'd also wager that this is common when submitting to them.
     
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